Ski Bowl 3.0 at Gore

[Peter Minde]

Double wide trailer??? Have you seen the atrocity that they want to build here? It looks like a new terminal at LaGuardia! Fucking ugly like the MVH lodge. At least have it look like the WF midstation.

I'm not crying about the old lodge ( and not sure where you pulled that bs from), I'm just saying why can't they at least serve something at the present lodge beside a load of BS about the new shiny toy. Every business in town is hurting for help, so ORDA says lets build a year round lodge/restaurant. You mark my words this lodge and the lift will be used sparingly at best, after the first year desperate attempt to save face.
ORDA could build some employee housing with some of that money, but ORDA ignores the problem.

The majority of residents in town (yes, the town where you do not live) are against this fiasco and takeover of our town park year round.

I haven't skied at Gore Nordic in the last couple years. I should get back there. Quite challenging trails.

Regarding a new lodge, I don't have a dog in the fight. I can attest that when there's a high school race with ~600 kids there, the old/current lodge was like a NYC subway car at rush hour.

North Creek, and Lake Placid both have affordable housing shortages, I know 2 people that commute from Plattsburgh to LP. That having been said, is it part of ORDA's mission to build housing?

 

[NorEaster27]

They removed most of the vending from the ski bow lodge this year, feels like its offering the least amount of services ever. I assume since the new lodge should hopefully start construction this summer?

 

[Benny Profane]

Well, if you have to have staff to run a mega lodge and all the operations, they gotta live somewhere.

 

[Harvey]

is it part of ORDA's mission to build housing?

I like the idea.

Right now employees must be commuting. An apartment building for labor, either cheap or included as a benefit would make it easier to staff the mountain, and those workers would spend more of their income in North Creek. They could build something great for less than the lodge.

Ultimately you probably need an "upgraded" lodge at the bowl (if you are putting in all that other stuff) but it probably has to be connected to the (not yet built) sewer system so I don't think it will be happening right away.

Personally, I like the idea of having nordic at the bowl. It takes so much less manmade snow to run that sport. Kids and racing!

 

[gregmarx]

Question from a Gore/skiblog newbie: How often is Echo closed for racing, and if it's often, is there any prospect of another connection between BR and Northwoods?

Visited Gore for first time this past weekend, skiied Northwoods/North Quad on Saturday then parked at Ski Bowl on Sunday a stone's throw from the lift and worked our way to the top from there. Liked everything about that experience (Moxham/Sagamore/Backwoods all fun trails, esp Moxham which we skiied twice more at end of day) except for the fact that with Echo closed the trip from bottom of BR to the summit was looooong and the skiing along the way was all traverses.

We might have just had bad luck with the Echo closure but if it's a regular thing it seems like it cuts against efforts to encourage winter visitors to use the Ski Bowl base (which is already something they encourage on the website and I assume one of several goals of Ski Bowl 3.0).

 

[snoloco]

Echo is closed more than it is open. It sucks because you can't get to Burnt Ridge without skating, and you can't get out without riding the horrible North Quad that can't go a minute without stopping.

There are plans for another trail from Burnt Ridge to the main base, though it would take away some if not all of Cirque Glades.

While I believe this connection is worth losing Cirque Glades, Gore needs another massive increase in snowmaking capacity before they add another acre of snowmaking footprint.

 

[gregmarx]

Echo is closed more than it is open. It sucks because you can't get to Burnt Ridge without skating, and you can't get out without riding the horrible North Quad that can't go a minute without stopping.

There are plans for another trail from Burnt Ridge to the main base, though it would take away some if not all of Cirque Glades.

While I believe this connection is worth losing Cirque Glades, Gore needs another massive increase in snowmaking capacity before they add another acre of snowmaking footprint.

Gotcha. Yeah, if it's closed regularly that seems like a connectivity problem. With conditions as firm as they were this weekend Pipeline/Eagle's Nest/Hedges (after the bump at the start) were all no big deal, but when soft they are prob rough. And from what I had read about Cedar's Traverse we ruled it out (I didn't even see signage for it at the main base Saturday, though I wasn't looking). And the North Quad->Wood In->High Peaks part of the trip up top from Burnt Ridge is a real drag.

 

[Cork]

I assume since the new lodge should hopefully start construction this summer?

The lodge constrcution is dependent upon the use of a sewer system that may or may not be installed in the future along Main St in North Creek (3-5 years minimum). I say may or may not, because even though the residents of the newly formed sewer district voted in favor of going forward with the grant requests, that does not mean that the grants will come through, or that the matching funds will be available, and that the price does not increase. If the sewer system does not happen, Front Street Development-Ski Bowl Village will have to accept the poop from the lodge (as he signed in agreement with the TOJ and ORDA back in 2007) and currently he is not very excited about the prospect of having poop stored on his property

 

[Alfredeneumann]

Echo is closed more than it is open. It sucks because you can't get to Burnt Ridge without skating, and you can't get out without riding the horrible North Quad that can't go a minute without stopping.

There are plans for another trail from Burnt Ridge to the main base, though it would take away some if not all of Cirque Glades.

While I believe this connection is worth losing Cirque Glades, Gore needs another massive increase in snowmaking capacity before they add another acre of snowmaking footprint.

Echo is closed a lot for racing, midweek and weekends, and is a huge PITA on mob scene Saturdays. But no one seems to be complaining on this thread about that, cuz it‘s alpine? A much simpler solution than destroying Cirque Glade (which is on the wrong side of Echo to get to main base anyway) to build another trail is to flatten the hump on Hedges between Echo and Tahawus Glade and the next hump on the service road that used to be the original uphill trail to Tahawus glade, and turn it into a trail from BR back to Twister.

 

[Campgottagopee]

The lodge constrcution is dependent upon the use of a sewer system that may or may not be installed in the future along Main St in North Creek (3-5 years minimum). I say may or may not, because even though the residents of the newly formed sewer district voted in favor of going forward with the grant requests, that does not mean that the grants will come through, or that the matching funds will be available, and that the price does not increase. If the sewer system does not happen, Front Street Development-Ski Bowl Village will have to accept the poop from the lodge (as he signed in agreement with the TOJ and ORDA back in 2007) and currently he is not very excited about the prospect of having poop stored on his property