Campgottagopee
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jul 20, 2020
Yep, and they'll be as good as all the rest of the *junk* that comes out of China. Total through away garbage.
ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions
- Thread starter DomB
- Start date
Campgottagopee
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jul 20, 2020
Even Tesla's --- if you see one with any kind of miles on it, nobody is even interested.
Milo Maltbie
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jul 21, 2020
That's what we used to say about "made in Japan" until Toyota and Datsun ate GM's lunch.
mm
- Joined
- Jul 15, 2020
I've always been a late adapter, if there is such a thing. (See my love for fixed grip lifts!)
I just feel like being one edge behind the cutting edge is the way to go. We're now a 3-hybrid family.
The things I don't like about EVs boil down to the batteries:
The weight of the car
The way the batteries are mined
What happens to the batteries at the end of the lifespan
FWIW an ICE car is like 80-something percent recyclable.
I just feel like being one edge behind the cutting edge is the way to go. We're now a 3-hybrid family.
The things I don't like about EVs boil down to the batteries:
The weight of the car
The way the batteries are mined
What happens to the batteries at the end of the lifespan
FWIW an ICE car is like 80-something percent recyclable.
DomB
Well-known member
- Joined
- Aug 25, 2020
I hear you. I made an intentional choice to be a beta tester but there were a lot of factors that came together there:
-car for the price (then net maybe 10k more than a nice highlander hybrid)
-capability
-long length of time I keep cars (though you could argue that means I should not beta test).
- knowing I would never be able to get this net pricing on this kind of vehicle again.
- doing enough research to know there are good chargers covering 99.9 percent of my driving - farthest I ever really drive is Stowe and you can easily get there with range by piggybacking thru 87. Then you are surrounded by slow chargers in town.
Somewhere between 2-5 years there are going to be sweet options.
On recycling point, these batteries (at least for riv and I think Tesla) are relatively easy to recycle into solar storage batteries. So you might be north of 80 percent - I do not know.
DomB
Well-known member
- Joined
- Aug 25, 2020
And I can’t wait to buy a cheap bolt in 8 years when my Subie is 19. Those are sweet for the money if you are ok w 200 miles of range or have another car that gets more range.
- Joined
- Jul 15, 2020
I said this before. I appreciate it.
The only beta test I ever did (where I spent my own money) was a pair of WhiteRoom skis, the first Vin ever made with a layer of titanal/metal. They are nice. But not as rigid as my head Rev 4s.
- Joined
- Jul 15, 2020
I was told by a mechanic that the batteries (hybrids and EVs) can be recycled once (which is certainly significant) and then they are done. Not sure if this is true.
Is there a market yet? How many teslas have used up their batteries? Our 2012 Prius is still on the originals.
Milo Maltbie
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jul 21, 2020
If you're one edge behind, I'm 3 or 4 behind. I'm still driving stick.
A hybrid seems like all the problems of ICE with most of the problems with EVs. Most of my miles are on the Northway, and I almost never get into traffic jams. There's not much advantage to a hybrid for all highway driving, and I don't even have a place to plug one in. If I had to drive the LIE everyday I'd want an EV, but for now I'm sticking with ICE. YMMV
mm
