The New Normal

[jasonwx]

Portland Oregon city commissioner had a problem with the window being open for her Lyft ride home from the casino recently. Got figure.

Portland city commissioner pushing to defund police called 911 over a Lyft ride

A Portland politician pushing to defund the police, claiming that most calls are not real crimes, recently called 911 herself — over an argument with a Lyft driver who refused to close his wi…

nypost.com

It's time to sing a verse from the great Slade song, Mama weer all crazee now

 

[Peter Minde]

There are very few documented cases of transmission in the school setting. Can't really think of one in fact. All the reports I've seen it's been pretty clear that the infection happened outside of school. True for employees, teachers, and students.

Have heard of parents out west sending their kids to school WHILE KNOWING that there had been exposure (without masks) to people who had tested positive. If kids and employees only wear face masks at school, that obviously increases the risk of exposure that results in COVID-19 outside of school quite a bit. Could well be other family members who are the source for the kids.

For other countries, the approach can be to keep schools open while closing or severely limiting the hours of restaurants, bars, or other businesses where adults gather to relax while drinking, talking, or singing. Of course, if those adults just move their gatherings into someone's home, then there is still plenty of opportunity for community spread.

Then there's this:

8 counties report new school coronavirus outbreaks, bringing total to 66 across N.J.

At least 269 coronavirus cases have been linked to students and school staff catching the virus at school, new stats say.

www.nj.com

 

[MarzNC]

Then there's this:

8 counties report new school coronavirus outbreaks, bringing total to 66 across N.J.

At least 269 coronavirus cases have been linked to students and school staff catching the virus at school, new stats say.

www.nj.com

Good to know. Good contact tracing is only possible on a statewide basis in the northeast at this point.

Can't get used to the idea that the definition of an "outbreak" is 2 or more cases tied to the same location. Back in August, NC colleges were using the term "cluster" when there were 5 or more cases tied to one building, which usually was a dorm or Greek house. But the CDC definition is pretty clear that it only takes 2. In general usage "cluster" and "outbreak" have become interchangeable.

 

[tirolski]

The PCR tests used assay for fragments of SAR-CoV2. The dude who discovered it said it shouldn’t be used for diagnostic purposes. Hard to find info on what NY uses for assay, but found this. Go figure. https://healthandmoneynews.wordpres...rona-test-is-a-fraud-the-epidemic-that-wasnt/

 

[Campgottagopee]

It's getting bad, real bad around here. My wife, being a nurse, is getting exhausted. The biggest issue is staffing, so many are out with COVID. Not sure what the hell these hospitals are going to do. The first round missed us, now it's here and it's everywhere.

 

[Warp daddy]

THESE ARE OPINIONS , NOT FACTS :
The upstate hospitals will most likely see a continual surge until the vaccine arrives and healthcare workers and the elderly receive the first priority .

The problem Campy cites is very real , staff has been living these horrors since March . Early on it was the stress of constant vigil , preparedness, training, coordination with other public health agencies , shortage of PPE etc, altho the initial wave admissions numbers were not as dire as it potentially is now . But that constant vigilence and design and redesign of protocols against a heretofore unknown enemy was enervating for all in the healthcare industry

Now with those issues being resolved , the Post Holiday surges resulting from peoples inability to self discipline/regulate , it is capable of reaching CRISIS proportions statewide . Heretofore small upstate community hospitals backstopped the Metro region where the initial surge impacted . BUT Now the surge is impacting those same small community hospitals .

There NEEDS to be a coherent national plan to manage , mobilize and distribute resources

The vaccines will be reportedly here in late Dec , ????Campy your wife like all her colleagues is a HERO of epic proportions

 

[Campgottagopee]

The truly scary part is how this virus effects people differently. One of our crew was hospitalized with it for almost 2 weeks. For a man in his early 50's he's in primo shape, works out daily. In fact, other that Peter I'd put his fitness level up against anybody. COVID knocked his dick right in the dirt, as he says he was steamrolled. His wife and son had zero symptoms and were positive too. We didn't get together with my parents over T-day, nor will we for X-mas. It's tough going for everyone. ?

 

[tirolski]

It's getting bad, real bad around here. My wife, being a nurse, is getting exhausted. The biggest issue is staffing, so many are out with COVID.

Camp, Are the staff out with symptoms of CoViD or out due to tested positive by assay? Hopefully the staff doesn’t have a lot of cases of CoViD. Hope your wife stays strong and healthy.

 

[Campgottagopee]

Camp, Are the staff out with symptoms of CoViD or out due to tested positive by assay? Hopefully the staff doesn’t have a lot of cases of CoViD. Hope your wife stays strong and healthy.

I'm not sure, I'd guess a combo of both. I just got a text from her, "It's pure hell". Not only is she and her co-workers physically exhausted, they are mentally exhausted. The bruises on her face from all the PPG is down right sad. I know, without a doubt, I could not do what they do.

 

[wonderpony]

I'm not sure, I'd guess a combo of both. I just got a text from her, "It's pure hell". Not only is she and her co-workers physically exhausted, they are mentally exhausted. The bruises on her face from all the PPG is down right sad. I know, without a doubt, I could not do what they do.

That just sucks, on so many levels. I am so sorry.