Wow, kudos to Harvey for keeping these threads open! Free exchange of ideas is the best way to discover the truth; funny how "big tech" (Twitter, FB, YT, etc.) are hell bent on denying any claim that perhaps the vaccines may not be as useful as once thought.
What I've learned through all of this is that most of those who have chosen to take the shots, freely or otherwise, will defend their decision to the bitter end. For them, it's a horrifying thought that they may have been sold a bill of goods or worse, that there may be long term consequences for their decisions. As I always say, to each his/her own. I respect your choice; please respect mine. (Actually, I don't care if you respect my choice, just leave me alone.)
What bothers me is the logical contortions that the "pro-vaxxers" have to make to convince themselves that they are right.
1) The original trial results claimed "~95% efficacy" for not contracting covid. What most people didn't realize that they were referring to "relative" efficacy. If you look at "absolute" efficacy, it's more like 0.8%.
2) A vaccine should protect you from contracting a disease. Clearly this isn't the case with the covid shot.
3) The common mantra "I was vaxxed and still contracted Covid but thankfully my symptoms are mild" isn't scientific. Most Covid cases are mild if you do not have comorbidities and are otherwise healthy.
Then there is the mask issue. The CDC and even our local doctors here in Syracuse are now saying that a cloth mask is useless and you should wear a surgical or N95 mask. No kidding, except for the fact that a surgical mask is also useless and an N95 mask, unless properly fitted, is also nearly useless. Breathing requires air flow, period.
Anyway, let's hope it starts snowing here in the NE so we can forget about all of this crap and do some skiing. It's the one thing we all love and a couple of large snow storms will relegate this conversation to the dust heap.