Ski Bowl 3.0 at Gore

[Campgottagopee]

This is the dumbest thing I have read on the internet so far in 2023. Skiing into a closed course is selfish, stupid and dangerous.

It's early in the year, but you're not wrong.

 

[TheGreatAbyss]

This is the dumbest thing I have read on the internet so far in 2023. Skiing into a closed course is selfish, stupid and dangerous.

There were like all of 8 people still on it and they were clearly practicing, the actual racing was far done. It was also 2:45 on a Sunday, and it was supposed to have been open by then according to the TR.

It was selfish to have kept it closed for two straight days on a busy powder weekend, forcing people to take the much hated North Quad, let alone after 2 pm on a Sunday for less than 10 people.

 

[TheGreatAbyss]

And FWIW I've had ski patrollers tell me that they would look the other way if I ducked it. They also know how much of a traffic flow issue it is to close that trail all day long.

 

[snoloco]

In ORDA, what NYSEF wants, NYSEF gets, and their demands only get bigger and bigger every year.

 

[Ripitz]

I've had ski patrollers tell me that they would look the other way if I ducked it.

You never know when you will need patrol.

 

[Campgottagopee]

Ski racing plays a major part in what skiing is now. The athletes that race deserve respect. I'll ski closed trails all day long, but I won't ski a trail that's closed for a race.

 

[snoloco]

Gore is the only ski area that has racing on a major connecting trail, and closures of it have only become more frequent. That's why there's an incentive to duck the rope. Respect goes both ways, and they should have that trail open whenever there isn't an event that requires the use of it. Training can be done elsewhere.

 

[Harvey]

Gore is the only ski area that has racing on a major connecting trail, and closures of it have only become more frequent.

This is not a choice designed to piss anyone off. Some trails are appropriate for racing, many are not. At Gore those trails are Twister and Echo. The use of either trail requires the public to use Pipeline to access Burnt Ridge and the Ski Bowl. If that amount of exercise is too much, you can ski the other 300 acres that are generally open when the use of Echo inhibits access.

IMO Gore skiers are extremely lucky to have a huge mountain, that would be big without Burnt Ridge or Ski Bowl. We are lucky to have state capex funding that goes way beyond what is justified by skier visits or ticket prices. The state funds Gore because somebody in Albany thinks it's good for NY. Racing is clearly part of that vision.

If you want Gore to be tied to revenue produced, they might never open Burnt Ridge or the Ski Bowl, and they'd probably keep racing on Echo.

I've been skiing Gore for 25 years and can't remember a ski day that I felt was ruined by racing. Racing is a great experience for kids, and sometimes adults have to put themselves second, to allow kids the opportunity to learn and grow.

 

[Tjf1967]

This is not a choice designed to piss anyone off. Some trails are appropriate for racing, many are not. At Gore those trails are Twister and Echo. The use of either trail requires the public to use Pipeline to access Burnt Ridge and the Ski Bowl. If that amount of exercise is too much, you can ski the other 300 acres that are generally open when the use of Echo inhibits access.

IMO Gore skiers are extremely lucky to have a huge mountain, that would be big without Burnt Ridge or Ski Bowl. We are lucky to have state capex funding that goes way beyond what is justified by skier visits or ticket prices. The state funds Gore because somebody in Albany thinks it's good for NY. Racing is clearly part of that vision.

If you want Gore to be tied to revenue produced, they might never open Burnt Ridge or the Ski Bowl, and they'd probably keep racing on Echo.

I've been skiing Gore for 25 years and can't remember at ski day that I felt was ruined by racing. Racing is a great experience for kids, and sometimes adults have to put themselves second, to allow kids the opportunity to learn and grow.

That and nysef writes a considerable check to orda each year

 

[snoloco]

This is not a choice designed to piss anyone off. Some trails are appropriate for racing, many are not. At Gore those trails are Twister and Echo. The use of either trail requires the public to use Pipeline to access Burnt Ridge and the Ski Bowl. If that amount of exercise is too much, you can ski the other 300 acres that are generally open when the use of Echo inhibits access.

No other ski resort has their race trails as the only ones that connect two mountain areas. Imagine if Killington's race trails were Caper and Bittersweet. That's how bad Gore's setup is. There are trails on the UMP that would provide the same connectivity, yet they refuse to prioritize them.

IMO Gore skiers are extremely lucky to have a huge mountain, that would be big without Burnt Ridge or Ski Bowl. We are lucky to have state capex funding that goes way beyond what is justified by skier visits or ticket prices. The state funds Gore because somebody in Albany thinks it's good for NY. Racing is clearly part of that vision.

If you want Gore to be tied to revenue produced, they might never open Burnt Ridge or the Ski Bowl, and they'd probably keep racing on Echo.

If Gore was tied to revenue produced, then they would've expanding their snowmaking capacity so Burnt Ridge and the Ski Bowl were open more than sporadically. They would've used real estate development to help fund the improvements.

I've been skiing Gore for 25 years and can't remember at ski day that I felt was ruined by racing. Racing is a great experience for kids, and sometimes adults have to put themselves second, to allow kids the opportunity to learn and grow.

I've never been into racing because I perceive it as boot camp. I would rather pick my own trails and pace. I'm not opposed to it existing, and I know other people who do enjoy it. This is not about whether I think ski racing is a good thing or not. This is about Gore's awful placement of their race trails, and lack of any user-friendly alternative to move between mountain areas, and their refusal to address it for 15 years and counting.