Poll: Parking at Ski Areas

How Should Ski Areas Handle a Shortage of Parking?

  • Expand Parking

    Votes: 14 70.0%
  • Paid Parking

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Carpool Incentives

    Votes: 9 45.0%
  • Parking Reservations

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Limit Ticket Sales

    Votes: 7 35.0%
  • Raise Ticket or Pass Prices

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Increase Public Transit

    Votes: 10 50.0%

  • Total voters
    20

snoloco

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If you've followed in industry in the last few years, you've probably heard about parking at ski areas filling up. I believe there are multiple factors behind it, such as increases in skier visits driven by mega passes, population growth in certain regions, decline in public transit service, and people not carpooling after the pandemic.

There are many ways to deal with this, and I wanted to start this thread to find which measures are the most acceptable to the skiing public. Note that there are pros and cons to each option, and you can't make everyone happy. I'll explain each poll option below.

Expand Parking:

This is simple, just increase the number of parking spaces available. Pros: Doesn't effect existing parking policies, almost guarantees an increase in skier visits. Cons: Environmental impact, can be difficult to get approved, more traffic.

Paid Parking:

Charge for a significant amount or even all parking. Can be tiered based on vehicle occupancy. Can offer season parking pass. Pros: More revenue, encourages carpooling, does not require expanding parking lots. Cons: Major public backlash especially from season passholders, can feel like a bait and switch to guests who don't know about it in advance.

Carpool Incentives:

Take measures to encourage carpooling without charging for parking. This could include setting up an app or forum to help people find rides, or reserving the closest spots for HOVs. Pros: Increases skier visits without needing to expand parking, lower environmental impact. Cons: Can't think of any.

Parking Reservations:

Require free reservations for parking, and don't allow parking without one. Pros: No one drives up and gets turned away when parking is full. Piece of mind for customers. Cons: Can significantly devalue a season pass if one can't get a reservation for parking, loss of revenue from potentially fewer skier visits.

Limit Ticket Sales:

Limit the number of skiers on the mountain, hopefully also reducing demand for parking. Pros: Can mean a better ski experience with less wait time or trail crowding. Cons: Turns away business, difficult to predict correct number of tickets to sell.

Raise Ticket or Pass Prices:

Raise the cost of ticket and pass prices to reduce demand. Pros: Potentially more revenue, better ski experience with less wait time or trail crowding. Cons: Can alienate long-time customers. May deter new skiers from picking up the sport.

Increase Public Transit:

Facilitate ways for customers to arrive without driving and parking. Pros: Reduces environmental impact, increases skier visits, can be a better experience for certain customers to not have to drive. Cons: Expensive to operate, no guarantee that skiers will use it.

Personally, I would look for ways to expand parking if doing so would not result in a major increase in traffic. I'm also all for improving public transit and encouraging/facilitating carpooling. I'm against paid parking, and I also would rather not do anything that turned people away. However, if it came to that, then parking reservations is the best solution.

What are your thoughts about the cause of parking issues at ski areas, and what are the best ways to solve it?
 
I could tell you where I park next to a lift at Killington, but then I'd have to kill you.
 
If you ride a bike you can park at the lodge.

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TLDR.

I don’t like massive parking lots that rarely get filled. It seems wasteful and destructive to have parking for crowds that only show up for x amount of days a year. American car culture is extremely terrible for the environment and the sustainability of this civilization.

Stacked parking garages may be better. I’m not so sure though and I imagine they’re very expensive.

Going skiing in Europe changed the way I see transportation. Trains are very cool.
 
The ski industry in the US largely grew up around the car, so that's a reality we'll be dealing with for as long as the industry exists. I think ski resorts should invest more in public transit. For resorts serving primarily day skiers, this would mean having bus service from central locations where many of their customers come from. Eldora and Crystal have this. For resorts with a lot of nearby, but not slopeside lodging, this would mean increasing lodging shuttle service.

The second has been an issue at Killington recently. During the pandemic, many people stopped riding the lodging shuttles, so service was cut, making it less useful, and causing even more people to drive. The relationship between the condo developments and the resort also soured with the condos pulling all their rental listing from the resort website. The resort then retaliated by not subsidizing the shuttles anymore. This petty conflict is one reason their parking keeps filling up on Saturdays, despite them still not getting the skier visits they did in the 90s.
 
Ski trains were responsible for the start of our sport here in NY. From NYC they stopped at Bear Mountain where there was a ski jump, Phoenicia for Simpson Ski Slope and Highmount for Belleayre.

There was a train to North Creek that delivered skiers to the Ski Bowl.

From NYC people could also take trains to the Berkshires and Vermont.

From Boston there were trains to New Hampshire and Maine.

These days you can still take the train from the city to Thunder Ridge.

If you’re up for an adventure the Mt Washington Cog Railway delivers skiers to 4,000ft.
 
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I think ski resorts should invest more in public transit.
Colorado towns and resorts figured out how to do that quite a while ago. Steamboat, Aspen, Telluride, and the bus options in Summit County are the best examples.

SLC and UTA are a mess these days.

As I understand it, the town of Stowe and the former owners before Vail Resorts didn't exactly work together on public transit planning.

Each region has different histories when it comes to ski resorts and the ski industry in general.
 
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