ORDA's Biggest Mistakes

[Milo Maltbie]

There not many days and fewer hours when Gore lift lines waits are unacceptable. Even the day the straightbrook didn’t run the longest line was still when the gondola opened. They should have a singles line at the AE2 more often, but none of the other lifts need them. Burnt Ridge never have enough traffic to need that, and fixed grips are too hard to load. No one uses single lines on fixed grip lifts because loading errors increase too much.

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[Milo Maltbie]

I’m at Steamboat this week. They’re loading the 8 seat gondola up to about 4. The lines are about what a Gore gondola wait is on a busy weekend.

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[snoloco]

You're wrong. Most resorts have singles lines on every lift. Also, I bet Steamboat loads 8 in their gondola.

 

[Milo Maltbie]

The problem with Gore lift ops is that they don’t open the upper mountain or Burnt Ridge early enough. Laps on Foxlair increase the gondola line and a gondola failures causes bottlenecks at High Peaks. Singles lines are not gonna havymuch effect on that. Opening Sunway, AE2, Burnt Ridge and the gondola all at 830 would minimize the disruption caused by a failure of any one of them, but that’s a budget thing.

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[Milo Maltbie]

You're wrong. Most resorts have singles lines on every lift. Also, I bet Steamboat loads 8 in their gondola.

Nope. Holiday weekend and I haven’t ridden the gondola with more than 4 yet. All the detachable quads have singles line but not the triples.

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[snoloco]

Ok maybe not on every lift, but certainly any key fixed grip lift that can be expected to have a line at times. Killington has them at the North Ridge Quad and Bear Mountain Quad. I'm pretty sure the Snowdon Triple does too. When they still had the Snowdon Quad, that had a singles line.

As for Gore's lift hours, they post the lift hours in the snow report for every lift.

AE2: 8:30 - 4
North: 8:45 - 3:45
Sunway: 8:30 - 4
High Peaks: 9 - 3:30
Straightbrook: 9 - 3:30
Gondola: 8:30 - 3:45
Topridge: 8:30 - 3:30
Burnt Ridge: 8:45 - 3:45
Hudson: 8:30 - 3:30
Village: 11 - 6

Actually adhering to this would help a lot, but they often don't. Today they did have Topridge ready right from the start, which was nice. Hudson needs to be extended to 4. It's really annoying when ski areas with multiple base areas don't have the same lift hours at all base areas.

 

[Huezee]

*Minor issue* I have not skied Gore since March 2020 but IIRC the ski holders on the outside of the gondola were always too narrow for the modern all mountain skis with wider widths.

 

[Q*bert Jones IV]

*Minor issue* I have not skied Gore since March 2020 but IIRC the ski holders on the outside of the gondola were always too narrow for the modern all mountain skis with wider widths.

Oh my god, I thought it was me! I've never even thought twice putting my skis in the gondola at Belle. I just could not get them in at Whiteface. I finally gave up and started putting them in one-at-a-time.

While we're there, at Whiteface I hit my head on the roof of the gondola every single time because the door's rigging is so low. That's never happened to me at Belleayre. Nobody would call me a tall person.

 

[Milo Maltbie]

Hudson needs to be extended to 4. It's really annoying when ski areas with multiple base areas don't have the same lift hours at all base areas.

Hudson needs to close before the BRQ to allow you to get back to the base. Every ski area in Northern America operates the same way.

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[JTG]

Oh my god, I thought it was me! I've never even thought twice putting my skis in the gondola at Belle. I just could not get them in at Whiteface. I finally gave up and started putting them in one-at-a-time.

While we're there, at Whiteface I hit my head on the roof of the gondola every single time because the door's rigging is so low. That's never happened to me at Belleayre. Nobody would call me a tall person.

Whiteface replaced gondola cars recently so slot width is no longer an issue! Belle’s is new so no issues there. I think Gore still has that problem?