Yukon Cornelius
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ORDA's Biggest Mistakes
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I was reading the post, not having looked at who posted it, and I thought to myself ‘That has got to be Sno’.
Hey, I get the finding a place in the lodge issue, when it happens it’s annoying a problematic. On any given regular day the lifts not being loaded fully seems like it’s not worth getting worked up over.
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Harvey
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ORDA just added a whole bunch of new lunch space a few years ago. More lodges, less lifts and snowmaking? Or more everything?
I had breakfast in the Saddle at 10:30, no issues finding a spot. Skipped lunch, having it now.
Understood, if ever they were going to load fully a holiday weekend would be the time. However, this seems to a peeve of Sno’s all the time, not just holiday weekends. So, as to the observed ‘mistake’, I don’t think the holiday has anything to do with it. If Sno said the mistake was with respect to holiday weekends, sure, I’d agree.
Gotcha. If the average wait is under 10 chairs, who cares. If it's over 10 chairs, better have a singles line and tell the lifties to make an effort to pair up groups. Busy lifts, on busy weekends, they really need to have a person dedicated to managing the line, to make it move as efficiently as possible.
I love mountains that have someone where the lines of the queue come together, who calls them out for loading, making sure they are all full groups. I see it out west a lot, and they also seem to do it in VT at a lot of places.
snoloco
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On the issue of lift throughput, that could be its own thread. For the most part, major lifts that can be expected to have a line for the better part of the day need to have someone to direct the line and fill chairs. Other lifts should at least have the queue ropes set up to facilitate full chairs. Gore does neither, and even at the gondola where they sometimes direct the line, you still see repeated cabins going up with just 4 or 5. That's inexcusable. If there's a big line, then every seat needs to be full. I did multiple President's Weekends at Gore growing up, and I remember them always loading 8 on the gondola. What changed? Why is throughput of their most popular lift not important anymore?
Harvey is right that ORDA expanded their lodges, but then they took out half the tables during the pandemic and never put them back, so they're back to square one. Did they lose the other tables or something? It's February 2023, and the lodges are set up like it's December 2020.
Harvey is right that ORDA expanded their lodges, but then they took out half the tables during the pandemic and never put them back, so they're back to square one. Did they lose the other tables or something? It's February 2023, and the lodges are set up like it's December 2020.
D.B. Cooper
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People got fatter. Seriously. The weight limit of each cabin is, I think, on the order of 1500 lbs. That's 180 pounds each, gear included. Not happening.
If not that, I think people would find better value in waiting 20% longer for a more comfortable ride (and ORDA recognizes this). That's only 3 minutes on a 15 minute queue.
snoloco
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Other resorts still fill their gondola cabins without issues. If there were safety concerns then they wouldn't. And see the new thread I just put up. The time penalty is a whole lot more than 20%. Failure to maximize lift capacity seriously limits your ability to take runs on a busy day, no matter how you try to explain it away or sugarcoat it.
