ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

[x10003q]

I think they’ll sell a gazillion of them and some contractors will for sure get them. But mostly, it’ll be old white dudes in golf course retirement communities. Those guys never drive anywhere or haul anything, but they love trucks. 10,000 pounds is pretty good towing capacity for most people. And they are AWD off the rip. And they have that front trunk thingy. Scarcity at the beginning will just drive up interest more.

Also, whoever is doing the marketing for this thing is a genius. Everyone in my circles seems to be talking about it.

Its not just old white guys.
We have family in Texas and whenever we visit, we take long walks in their respective neighborhoods. Roughly 95% of the driveways have a pristine 1/2 ton (like an F-150) pick-up truck in the driveway. The handful of dirty/labeled pickups are 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickups. Most people in Texas who own 1/2 ton pickups use them for daily drivers.

Maybe if your company has a (fleet) need for 10 F-150s you will be able to get the $39K price. Guys who pay for their own trucks and use them for work are not going to buy F150s. Unless Ford makes an EV F-250/350, they will be selling EV pickups to people who use them as daily drivers. No company purchasing dept is going to buy 1/2 ton pickups if they need the heavier duty models.

 

[Campgottagopee]

some contractors will for sure get them

Maybe the ones who actually don't build anything? They only come in a 6' box.

 

[tirolski]

And they have that front trunk thingy.

Take a sip for the thingy.

 

[Campgottagopee]

electric motors are a magnet and some wire.

It's impressive how much HP and torque those things can't put out

 

[tirolski]

It's impressive how much HP and torque those things can't put out

Jasonwx "electric motors are a magnet and some wire."

"The nation that controls magnetism will control the universe!” Dick Tracy

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[Campgottagopee]

(fleet)

I hope to god fleet comes back. Right now no manufacturer is/can do it, heck they can't even get units to their dealers. That, in part, is one of the issues driving the used car market beyond sky high. Enterprise and Hertz are now buying cars at auction vs. the manufacturer. I can tell you if they're on a car they will buy it, they don't stop bidding.

Has anyone noticed the miles on a rental car lately?? It used to be they would get rid of their cars once they hit teenage miles, now they're running them well into the 40's and beyond.

 

[tirolski]

Has anyone noticed the miles on a rental car lately?? It used to be they would get rid of their cars once they hit teenage miles, now they're running them well into the 40's and beyond.

Rented a red Toyota for a week long meeting at Park City in the summer years ago. Women’s US Ski Team was there too. Took the thing into the mountains on a fishing trip. Dirt roads made it turn colors. YMMV.

 

[DomB]

Any way you'd clean this up?

Harv - I dont know what that is. I think the WSJ (where I got the article) was telling me that I would like to read the article about the conflict. Whatever views people have, I think we can all agree none of us like conflict. It was a a copy and paste; I think that was the paper suggesting an article. Certainly no message intended

 

[Harvey]

Don't sweat it I think you read something into what I said that I didn't intend. I deleted part of the post that was duplicated and some other stuff I was pretty sure you didn't intend to include. When you copy a whole page sometimes you get some extra stuff too.

 

[MarzNC]

Having never paid attention to the F-150 size category, I didn't know there is a hybrid version. Certainly not cheap. Any idea who is buying the 2021 F-150 hybrid?

2021 Ford F-150 Hybrid PowerBoost Review: Is The Hybrid F-150 Worth It?

You don’t automatically associate the term ‘hybrid’ with pickup trucks like the Ford F-150, but its inclusion in the 2021 lineup demonstrates Ford’s commitment to new alternative-fuel models.

www.forbes.com

https://www.cars.com/articles/we-bought-a-2021-ford-f-150-see-how-much-we-paid-431616/

Full disclosure . . . the only pickup I have experience with is a Ford Ranger. I call it my giant wheelbarrow. Mostly use it to bring mulch to our house. If I'm being thorough, that can mean 15 loads between spring and fall. It's a 1998, standard transmission not automatic. The salesman was working hard to talk my husband into a fully loaded automatic to get it off the lot since we went shopping pretty late in the year. But I saw no reason to pay more for bells and whistles we didn't need. It was never meant to be a daily drive vehicle. Still has less than 30,000 miles.