ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

[DomB]

Not certain of the roads. You are going to go through Whitehall. Are their fast chargers in Rutland?

Not really but there is one in waitsfield 10 min away.

 

[tirolski]

Some day the Russians will hack the GPS system and we'll all get lost on the way to the Shoprite and starve to death.

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GM’s telematics helped put The Rooster behind bars.

Newly-obtained GM OnStar data reveals Murdaugh's whereabouts night of murders

Prosecutors rest case, defense begins calling witnesses in day 20 of Murdaugh trial

www.wyff4.com

 

[billyb3]

Not really but there is one in waitsfield 10 min away.

I believe there are a couple EvGo in downtown Rutland that are 100kw. Probably out of the way for your trip, but some walkable food options nearby.

 

[DomB]

Rivian's production numbers will be flat this year (though 60,000 ain't bad). They are cutting 10 percent of their work force.

I think it is important for them to have good deposit levels after the R2 reveal in order to be able to get more financing. I do not think they will disappear (worst case Amazon which owns 20 percent will buy them on the cheap). Nothing but positive things to say about the vehicle, and I made the right decision for me.

It also looks like there were modest price cuts and that they have leasing options (which circumvent the income limit on the EV tax credit). Time will tell.

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/ev-maker-rivian-to-cut-salaried-workforce-by-10-894d7769?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1

 

[DomB]

The R2 is expected to price at 40-60,000. Let's hope they can actually have it in that range, including models in the 40,000 range. That would be 32.5 after rebate (which I think is now point of sale - taken off the price). Unveil is early March (7, I think).

My Rivian stock is now worth less than 20% of what I paid for it. I was thinking about doing a tax loss sale at the end of last year but did not pull the trigger. There is always this year!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rivian-hires-new-marketing-leader-as-it-prepares-to-unveil-first-economy-line-698287c1?mod=Searchresults_pos2&page=1

 

[Brownski]

Is the R2 a truck? Smaller SUV? Subaru style crossover?

 

[DomB]

Is the R2 a truck? Smaller SUV? Subaru style crossover?

I think we don't know yet. From a few searches it looks like clearly an SUV will come first and some think there will also be a smaller truck.

The smaller truck thing will be interesting because the T is between a small and mid size truck. A smaller truck has to be something like a maverick (which I think sells like hot cakes).

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46803524/rivian-r2-release-date/

 

[tirolski]

How much juice does it take to operate the telematics system for EV’s (and gassers)?
Some companies are having issues with telematics systems draining charged batteries while the vehicle is turned “off”, (even in a gasser).

When are folks gonna figure out wireless charging for vehicles?
They’re getting the 5G telematics down.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/verizon-fit-audis-test-track-with-5g-smart-vehicle-testing-2024-02-22/

 

[Harvey]

I was chuckling about Elon telling the Rivian and Lucid guys to sleep in the factory.

The (R+L) CEOs are talking about "historically high interest rates."

That's misdirection IMO. EVs were a fad for a while, and that period is over, for now at least. I get that it's hard for a CEO to say that.

If you can't survive with a 7% interest rate, the future will be difficult.

IMO EVs are part of the future. It remains to be seen if the current players will be in the game.

Rivian and Lucid shares plunge after weak EV earnings reports

Shares of electric vehicle makers Rivian and Lucid fell Thursday after the companies reported stagnant production in their fourth-quarter earnings.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Tjf1967]

Is the R2 a truck? Smaller SUV? Subaru style crossover?

It's going to be an outback sized vehicle. Uncle Joe fucked an all American Company. They are going to make it by but they need the smaller truck.