This doesn't really go here, but I'm not starting a new thread for it.
We did some car "looking" today (vs shopping). Daughter will be driving May 20 or so, we are thinking of handing down the ten year old Prius and getting something new for my wife. Since we are planning to movie to the mountains in the next few years, we want an AWD hybrid with a bit of extra ground clearance.
We drove quite a distance because our local Toyota and Honda dealers seem pretty crappy. High pressure etc. After an appointment at Toyota, we decided for the hell of it to show up at a Honda dealer, even though we knew it was unlikely that they would have a CRV.
They didn't have one but we sat with a salesman talked about pricing etc. This dealer (Clinton Honda) does not charge above MSRP. I couldn't believe it. Toyota and Honda near us are asking $3-5K above MSRP.
The guy said "we're a family owned business, and the guy who owns it all told us at the beginning of the shortage 'we are not going above MSRP.'"
I was somewhat stunned. The research, CRV vs RAV is done. We'll buy a CRV at MSRP.