ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

Milo Maltbie said:
No technology is risk free when it's scaled up to the global level. Fossil fuels may be an existential threat to civilization. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

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Or affordable
The people making the decisions are blind to affordable. NYS is a prime example. We could have cheap, clean, efficient, affordable heat, but no. One issue is the people making the decisions don't have to pay for their own shit.
 
Campgottagopee said:
This isn't changing anytime soon. In fact we may never see in stock inventory levels like we did pre-pandemic.
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Is there some way online (without actually calling a dealer) to see how much over MSRP cars are selling for?
 
Campgottagopee said:
Or affordable
The people making the decisions are blind to affordable. NYS is a prime example. We could have cheap, clean, efficient, affordable heat, but no. One issue is the people making the decisions don't have to pay for their own shit.
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What does affordable mean if there's 10 feet of sea level rise already baked in to the future?

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Campgottagopee said:
This isn't changing anytime soon. In fact we may never see in stock inventory levels like we did pre-pandemic.
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Yup.
Ain’t many around.
Maybe we can dig up some of those old clunkers folks got paid to smash in ’09.
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Domestic Auto Inventories

Graph and download economic data for Domestic Auto Inventories (AUINSA) from Jan 1993 to Jul 2024 about inventories, vehicles, domestic, new, and USA.
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tirolski said:
Maybe we can dig up some of those old clunkers folks got paid to smash in ’08.
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Apparently we believe we can make ourselves rich by destroying usable private assets but we can't afford public spending for sustainable inftastructure. The modern economy is a mysterious thing.

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Harvey said:
Is there some way online (without actually calling a dealer) to see how much over MSRP cars are selling for?
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Yes
The manufactures website will give you MSRP of the car you're looking for. You need to really look at the fine print to be sure you're comparing apples to apples. Meaning, be sure the packaging on the car you've built matches the car you're looking at.
I'd also go to the dealers website as the MSRP has to be disclosed on their site.
 
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