Global Weirding

[raisingarizona]

These two things are related.

Historically human life has existed in the SW for as long as humans have been around the area but it’s also had its booms and busts that have directly been connected to the weather. We’ve never pushed it this far though, obviously.

 

[Harvey]

human life has existed in the SW for as long as humans have been around

In the beginning they didn't water their lawns? Certainly density was lower.

When you are diverting water long distances it's a signal. I saw a plan to put a pipeline to the great lakes. If we do that we are toast, albeit at a later date.

 

[x10003q]

Resort skiing is an energy-intensive operation, relying on fossil fuels, producing greenhouse gases, and contributing to global warming. Ski lifts usually run on electricity, and operating a single ski lift for a month requires about the same energy needed to power 3.8 households for a year.


The information is a click away. Your can bury your head in the sand but come on.

You are focused on the wrong industry. Electric operations at ski areas can be matched by solar and wind installations - like Gore has done already with solar.

Sustainability - Gore Mountain

goremountain.com

 

[raisingarizona]

In the beginning they didn't water their lawns? Certainly density was lower.

When you are diverting water long distances it's a signal. I saw a plan to put a pipeline to the great lakes. If we do that we are toast, albeit at a later date.

No, they used to water their corn, beans and squash though!

Taking water from the GL’s has got to have a massive negative impact on the health of those ecosystems. It doesn’t seem like a good idea but again, I ain’t no scientist.

If I lived around the Great Lakes and this pipeline was a thing, and then say I took a trip to Phoenix and saw how they use water I’d be furious.

There’s a fountain in fountain hills that goes off every hour like old faithful blasting g water 300 feet into the air! It’s a massive middle finger to the natural world. A huge human cock and balls that spits at old ma nature. It’s insane.

 

[moguljunkie]

In certain areas, the global warming impact of skiers is going to be greater. Here in the Catskills, many skiers drive a long way to get here. If you added up all the miles driven of all the skiers at Hunter, Windham, and Belleayre (and Plattekill to a much smaller degree) from NYC, NJ, and LI, etc., the total each weekend day is likely astronomical.

 

[MC2]

Seems like a combination of renewable energy sources, electrification of vehicles, advances in battery technology, & efficient desalinization operations could keep humanity chugging along for the foreseeable future.

I used to be a climate change alarmist, but now I feel like technology is advancing to meet the challenges of the future (barring some sort of “tipping point” scenario where the melting permafrost releases a mass of carbon so large that it becomes impossible to do anything)

 

[raisingarizona]

In certain areas, the global warming impact of skiers is going to be greater. Here in the Catskills, many skiers drive a long way to get here. If you added up all the miles driven of all the skiers at Hunter, Windham, and Belleayre (and Plattekill to a much smaller degree) from NYC, NJ, and LI, etc., the total each weekend day is likely astronomical.

You could take it even farther. Like, what impact does the average skier have with their day to day lives, what percentage of their excess income (income not used for the basic necessities) is used on their skiing past times and so on but let’s be honest, none of this actually matters. People are still going to do what they do and our instinctual behavior to attract a mate, or mates and procreate will trump any sort of common sense connected to anything beyond that or ourselves.

But, maybe that’s nature and our purpose. Just like cancer we are gonna fuck our selves to death! Maybe we’re just a catalyst to help jump start this planet into its next phase.

 

[saratogahalfday]

This is another post of mine from the same thread. These are my thoughts regarding where I think skiing is headed with the changing weather.

Another thing worth noting is that even though say, The Arizona Snowbowl will likely continue to be successful in a drying and warming planet that doesn't mean it will be a place you or I care to ski or can afford. I often hear people say that they'll go ski wherever they can during these conversations but I secretly think to myself that this person doesn't quite understand the actual implications at play here. As more ski areas close skiing will become more excluded and crowded. You'll have to pay top dollar for a diminished "guest experience" to the point that someone like myself won't find it attractive any longer. It's already becoming like that. I'm not a huge fan of hyped up powder days anymore, it's just too much. Weekends? They're generally a nope for me, a pow day on a Saturday? Oh fuck no!

During the Christmas holiday period Snowbowl had several days where day tickets were 250 bucks, at Snowbowl! People on Social medias were outraged demanding them to drop their prices because Snowbowl isn't worth those prices but I imagine these people don't exactly get capitalism very well because guess what? The parking lots were full. As the options become limited the demand will go up and so will the prices pushing a lot of us away from the sport.

$250 for the Snow Bowl! I'm blown away.

 

[saratogahalfday]

we are experience a great migration to the south west. i wonder in 25 yrs that will flip due to no water..

The Colorado River is drying up. That's game-over for Las Vegas, Phoenix, ect.

 

[saratogahalfday]

In the beginning they didn't water their lawns? Certainly density was lower.

When you are diverting water long distances it's a signal. I saw a plan to put a pipeline to the great lakes. If we do that we are toast, albeit at a later date.

That will never happen. A water war will erupt, and I'll gladly fight to keep mine. If there's no feasible water source where you live, move.