Campgottagopee
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This would be my biggest issue, but how on earth do you control crowding issues? Limiting the number of guest's / day? That will just piss people off, no?
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Campgottagopee
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Gotcha
That makes sense.
Brownski
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Thats a tough issue. Clearly it has to do with pricing. Where's the line between selling a loss-leader and predatory pricing? On the other hand, a pass is supposed to give you access to actual skiing. How long do the lines have to be before you can claim they're not delivering what you paid for?
Harvey
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I think there is a lawsuit based on this somewhere.
Andy_ROC
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Just from my personal standpoint---
I've only been to 2 vail run mountains for a family trip in Feb 2020. 3 days Breck at a Ski in/out non VR property and 1 day trip to Vail. We had a wonderful time. We start early and ski late and don't stop to buy food. We always carry our own food and water for the day when we're at a big mountain, and I don't see that changing.
My current position is that I will not go to any VR for any reason until they fix these issues. But now being more aware of what VR is doing, even if they do address some issues, I'll still avoid them because I don't like resorts that feel like Disney. I prefer more rustic, laid back places. I also loath big corporate takeover of ski mountains and towns that answer to wall street.
Attaboy Rich-T ?
Some folks are trying, allegedly.
With slopes limited, do Stevens Pass skiers have recourse? | HeraldNet.com
Lift ticket fine print bars a class action lawsuit, saying passes are non-refundable. But those might not be the last words.
www.heraldnet.com
It’ll be interesting how this plays out.
Negotiations have been goin on for a long time.
www.vaildaily.com
And this tidbit.
townlift.com
Negotiations have been goin on for a long time.
Park City Mountain Resort ski patrollers overwhelmingly authorize a strike if talks with Vail Resorts unsuccessful
The membership of the union that represents ski patrollers at Park City Mountain Resort overwhelmingly voted to authorize a strike should negotiations with Vail Resorts, the Colorado-based owner of the resort, collapse.
www.vaildaily.com
And this tidbit.
Viral email claims Vail Resorts tried to recruit temporary patrollers to Park City for $600 a day plus travel fees - TownLift, Park City News
PARK CITY, Utah — A viral email thread shared widely on social media on Friday allegedly shows Vail Resorts Patrol Manager Nathan Jones trying to recruit
townlift.com
Low Angle Life
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At what price do people start to drop away though? Vail has created a pretty unbeatable value proposition in theory. They just have not been able to deliver on it. If they paid on mountain employees fair wages, ran regular maintenance on lifts and other infrastructure and really leaned into blowing snow IMO $2K would be a justifiable cost for Epic.
Unfortunately I see things going a different way, more pay to play add ons and privileges, Airline club style. Want to ski Hunter West, thats a $500 add on to your pass price. The Hermitage private ski club model is the only thing that could really do damage to the Vail model in my mind. Places like that and the Yellowstone Club prove that if you're in the right tax bracket, no cost is too prohibitive for a decent ski experience. Those peasants who can't saddle up half a mil for a condo and $40K in annual dues will be stuck skiing with the masses.
