Winter Weather 22/23

[TheGreatAbyss]

New York City is due for a crushing earthquake

Not at the intensity or time scale that the PNW is

 

[MC2]

Not at the intensity or time scale that the PNW is

Maybe read the article? It mentions that even a smaller earthquake would do millions of dollars more in damage than in an area that regularly deals with (and designs for) earthquakes.

Either way, my point was: it’s all speculative & you can worry about whatever you want. Neither you or I can predict the future. If you wanted to, you could invent a reason not to leave the house every morning. I’m going to choose not to do that.

 

[tirolski]

There was a tornado in Mechanicville when I was younger. The ice storm knocked out power for a bunch of communities for a week or two in ‘98. New York City is due for a crushing earthquake (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/12/05/predicting-the-earthquake-that-could-wreck-new-york). The Yellowstone Supercaldera could explode & destroy global food supplies (https://www.vox.com/2014/9/5/6108169/yellowstone-supervolcano-eruption).

Anyone can point to a bunch of random things and say that the world is a dangerous place. You guys sound like the “Mom Alert” SNL skit:

Yup. Gravity is a bitch if ya fall but also allows for fun too. Light from the sun can kill ya too but also supports a lot of forms of life.

The new pup doesn’t give a f@ck about anyofit till his old ladies put a smack down on him and
then he starts wagging his tail again a few moments later with some retaliatory howling back whenever it happens.

The dang Calico Cat teaches the three dogs and is The Queen. They all get along well.
Although Kitty’s been hissing at the new pup when he fusses with her tail, then with some threats from her lightning fast right hand.
He just wants to play and is a good boy.

 

[TheGreatAbyss]

Maybe read the article?

Yeah I read it, did you read the article I posted? New York might get a 5 on the order of 100s of years, 7 on the order of 1000s, but no one really knows as there is little evidence

Seattle is in a major subduction zone, which sees 8 or 9s every several hundred years. The article talks about the ground itself dropping 10s of feet in elevation. Oh, and Seattle only VERY recently started designing with earthquakes in mind. You ever been there? Lots of old concrete towers that will crumble instantly, and 100 year old wood houses that will just tumble off their foundations.

A worse case magnitude 9 is 10,000x more powerful then the 5 NYC might get in the same time frame.

 

[MC2]

Yeah I read it, did you read the article I posted? New York might get a 5 on the order of 100s of years, 7 on the order of 1000s, but no one really knows as there is little evidence

Seattle is in a major subduction zone, which sees 8 or 9s every several hundred years. The article talks about the ground itself dropping 10s of feet in elevation. Oh, and Seattle only VERY recently started designing with earthquakes in mind. You ever been there? Lots of old concrete towers that will crumble instantly, and 100 year old wood houses that will just tumble off their foundations.

A worse case magnitude 9 is 10,000x more powerful then the 5 NYC might get in the same time frame.

How common do you think 9s are?

Also, what Geology degrees do you hold (just so so know who I’m talking to here)?

 

[snoloco]

Yeah, I think it’s really time for passionate skiers to consider how much longer they want to stay in the east.

I’m usually a “It’s still early”, “Plenty of season left”, “March is historically the snowiest month” guy, but I’m not sure I can count on February/March anymore.

And without February/March, there really is no ski season in the east.

Skiing white ribbons of death with a bunch of drunk/stoned maniacs is not my idea of fun. I do it early in the season to get my legs a workout, but at some point, I really like to get into the trees & BC, away from the masses. Resorts are (correctly) scrambling to reblow the connector trails they lost to the warmth/rain, so it’s hard for them to lay down base on new trails (and get that sweet blowover into the trees). This pattern looks likely to continue for a little while longer.

At least out west, there is plenty of room for the drunk/stoned maniacs to spread out. And honestly, I just wished for snowmaking blowover so that the trees can get a decent base before a 2”-8” storm. I feel like I’m hoping for a little potato chunk in my gruel so I can get a tiny lift of happiness & say “well, it isn’t all terrible!” Pretty pathetic, honestly.

I only ski at resorts, so the backcountry thing isn't a factor for me.

There are two things keeping me in the east. One is that all of my family is here, and I don't want to have to fly to visit my parents, because I will probably see them much less often.

The other is the traffic and parking issues plaguing the western resorts in most markets. I was in Utah back in December and the traffic was bad then, but it is even worse now that it's mid-season. Parking lots fill by 9, and it can be impossible to get on one of the ski buses because they stupidly slashed service in half. And this doesn't even account for paid parking, which is spreading like a virus out there, and can easily cost you more than a season pass over the course of the season. Basically, the skiing might not be that good on certain days in the east, but at least I know I'll be able to actually go when I want to, and not break the bank doing so. I'll fly out west once or twice a year, and set up trips in a way to avoid the traffic problems.

It also goes without saying that the west can have bad snow years too. They just happen to be having a really good year right now.

 

[MC2]

The other is the traffic and parking issues plaguing the western resorts in most markets. I was in Utah back in December and the traffic was bad then, but it is even worse now that it's mid-season. Parking lots fill by 9, and it can be impossible on one of the ski buses because they stupidly slashed service in half. And this doesn't even account for paid parking, which is spreading like a virus out there, and can easily cost you more than a season pass over the course of the season. Basically, the skiing might not be that good on certain days in the east, but at least I know I'll be able to actually go when I want to, and not break the bank doing so. I'll fly out west once or twice a year, and set up trips in a way to avoid the traffic problems.

I would say that there are Resorts out west that aren’t like that & resorts in the east (Stowe) that are.

 

[snoloco]

All of the Utah cottonwoods resorts are certainly plagued by overcrowding. It's not that bad on the mountain, just the getting to the mountain that's the problem.

 

[Low Angle Life]

All of the Utah cottonwoods resorts are certainly plagued by overcrowding. It's not that bad on the mountain, just the getting to the mountain that's the problem.

And thats not even getting started with I-70... It's kinda rad that all the "hardcore" outdoor enthusiasts from the east jump ship and move west, it leaves us fools that stay behind with quiet MTB trails, uncrowded BC zones and way less Bro's at the trailhead.

The front range is my personal hell, and yet all my friends who moved out that way won't shut up about what I'm missing...

 

[Harvey]

There are two things keeping me in the east. One is that all of my family is here, and I don't want to have to fly to visit my parents, because I will probably see them much less often.

The other is the traffic and parking issues plaguing the western resorts in most markets. I was in Utah back in December and the traffic was bad then, but it is even worse now that it's mid-season. Parking lots fill by 9, and it can be impossible to get on one of the ski buses because they stupidly slashed service in half. And this doesn't even account for paid parking, which is spreading like a virus out there, and can easily cost you more than a season pass over the course of the season. Basically, the skiing might not be that good on certain days in the east, but at least I know I'll be able to actually go when I want to, and not break the bank doing so. I'll fly out west once or twice a year, and set up trips in a way to avoid the traffic problems.

It also goes without saying that the west can have bad snow years too. They just happen to be having a really good year right now.

Interesting to me. Have you felt this way for a while or is it after your recent trip?