Total Solar Eclipse coming to NY: April 8, 2024

Not In The Path Of Totality? No Problem, Eclipse Still Has Plenty To Offer

this is a partial , i think you will be fine...
Folks call that "the ring of fire”. Looks kinda like a diamond ring.
 
Not In The Path Of Totality? No Problem, Eclipse Still Has Plenty To Offer

this is a partial , i think you will be fine...
We're all gonna be fine. We're all past the point where we think an eclipse means Zeus is killing the sun.
OTOH if you are in the Dacks, why wouldn't you drive a few miles to see the totalaty? Even if you are not interested, you should at least to find the best party.

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We're all gonna be fine. We're all past the point where we think an eclipse means Zeus is killing the sun.
OTOH if you are in the Dacks, why wouldn't you drive a few miles to see the totalaty? Even if you are not interested, you should at least to find the best party.

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When Edison passed away they were going to shut off all electricity in the country off at midnight for one minute. They decided not to do it because people had so adapted to evening light on roads and other places the safety risk was too high. Yes, not even barely tangential but i have been waiting to work that in.
 
James informed me about this thread. Liz and I met online on the Solar Eclipse Mailing List in 2010 due to mutual interest in skiing after that July 11 eclipse, my 6th and her 4th. However she was on Easter Island for the eclipse and skied in Chile while I was on the Paul Gauguin cruise ship near Tahiti and skied in New Zealand. We met in person when the Diamond Dogs ski club had a trip to Mammoth in March 2011. Liz moved in with me in SoCal from NYC in 2013 and we have attended all 9 total solar eclipses together since 2012. As for skiing, Liz had skied 85 ski areas when we met; she has now skied 213. Living in the East Liz never skied more than 29 days in a season. Since 2013 she has averaged 41 days and the only season under 30 was 2019-20 which ended when she broke her shoulder on Jan. 8.

In view of the above background Liz and I were married on Rendezvous Peak at Jackson Hole immediately after the 2017 total solar eclipse. Outside Magazine writer Gordy Megroz wrote an article about the eclipse from the perspective of Jackson locals, with Liz and me being the featured visiting veteran eclipse chasers.
 
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James informed me about this thread. Liz and I met online on the Solar Eclipse Mailing List in 2010 due to mutual interest in skiing after that July 11 eclipse, my 6th and her 4th. However she was on Easter Island for the eclipse and skied in Chile while I was on the Paul Gauguin cruise ship near Tahiti and skied in New Zealand. We met in person when the Diamond Dogs ski club had a trip to Mammoth in March 2011. Liz moved in with me in SoCal from NYC in 2013 and we have attended all 9 total solar eclipses together since 2012. As for skiing, Liz had skied 85 ski areas when we met; she has now skied 213. Living in the East Liz never skied more than 29 days in a season. Since 2013 she has averaged 41 days and the only season under 30 was 2019-20 which ended when she broke her shoulder on Jan. 8.

In view of the above background Liz and I were married on Rendevous Peak at Jackson Hole immediately after the 2017 total solar eclipse. Outside Magazine writer Gordy Megroz wrote an article about the eclipse from the perspective of Jackson locals, with Liz and me being the featured visiting veteran eclipse chasers.
Congratulations on y’all's many rings of fire. 👍👍Great pics.
Shoulda woulda coulda been an actuary.

With the next one ya should have 1 diamond for each finger.
Are y'all gonna do WF?
Malone NY (Titus Mtn) & Bristol Mtn (S of Rochester) are real close to the mid line.
Jay Vt. too?
Might be yer 1st twofer Skiing - Eclipsing.
Hope it’s a bluebird spring day.
 
Th go-to resource for mapping one's eclipse plans is Xavier Jubier's interactive Google Maps. The eclipse path is superimposed over a Google Map which can be zoomed to street level detail. Click on any point and the eclipse circumstances will be displayed, example here for Whiteface:
TSE2024Whiteface.jpg

The eclipse centerline is blue and the northern and southern limits are pink. Length of totality decreases gradually moving away from centerline but then rapidly closer to the limits. Whiteface totality is 3 minutes 26 seconds while centerline totality to the NW near Loon Lake is 3 minutes 35 seconds. Sugarbush, less than 10 miles from the southern limit, gets 1 minute 29 seconds.

The closest ski area to centerline with a panoramic view is probably Jay Peak with 3 minutes 30 seconds totality. Below I've superimposed the eclipse path over my Worldwide Ski Map kml file, pins showing NY and VT ski areas within totality.
TSE2024NYVT.jpg


The most important factors in deciding where to see a total solar eclipse are the weather, the weather and the weather. If it's clouded out, it's a very "meh" experience, not so different than jason's comment:
every day between 8;30pm and 5am ish
The authority on eclipse climate/weather prospects is Canadian meteorologist Jay Anderson. Jay has been to 24 total solar eclipses including two when I've been in the same location (Egypt 2006 and Paul Gauguin cruise 2010). Weather geeks will appreciate his exhaustive weather analysis of TSE2024. As Northeast skiers, I'm sure most of you know that the early April NE climatology is on average not very sunny, as shown in Jay's April climate map:
April-NoAm-cloud.png

It will not surprise you that Liz and I have already booked flights, lodging and a car in Mazatlan. We hope to drive 100 miles on the toll road toward Durango to view from its 8,800 foot high point.

Given the bad climatology of all of the Northeast ski resorts in April, it's a very bad idea to commit to one of them in advance with lodging reservations. As you surely know it's very tedious to drive east-west in northern New York or New England if you need to relocate. The key to success in most of the U.S. and Canada is to be flexible. Weather forecasts during the 48 hours or so before the eclipse should tell you where to go with high probability. The eclipse is on Monday, so you have a weekend on the interstate highway system to get to the right place.

Skiers hoping to ski on the same day in the Northeast should perhaps position themselves in a place like Albany. If any of the ski areas look favorable, you get on the road at 4AM or even the night before and drive to it. If the ski area forecasts are bad, you drive the other way to south shore Lake Ontario or even to Lake Erie or beyond if that's what it takes. I'd even recommend a Southwest air ticket to Dallas (big city, so hotel prices won't get jacked) as the worst case weather scenario backup.

Even if you don't become addicts like Liz and me, this is a bucket list event and the next one in any part of the continental U.S. is in 2044. Don't miss it!
 
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Great map. Thank you! My house is practically position A for this at 3:30 totality.

Where's a trustworthy source for eclipse glasses?
 
And now to respond to misinformation.....

Not In The Path Of Totality? No Problem, Eclipse Still Has Plenty To Offer

this is a partial , i think you will be fine...
That's a diamond ring, the last sunlight through a valley of the moon before totality.
Is 99.99% the same as 100.00%?
No it's not.
I found this answer from the late astrophysicist Jay Pasachoff, who attended 36 of them:
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Pasachoff
To: SEML
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:23 AM
Subject: [SEML] Eclipse ratios.

Since the sun is about 400,000 times brighter than the full moon (about 14 magnitudes), a 99% eclipse (so termed) is about 4,000 times too bright compared with totality, which is about the brightness of the full moon. So a "99% eclipse" is really only 100/400,000 = 1/4,000 = 1/40% of totality = 0.025%.

So if someone claims 99% coverage, we can translate to less then a tenth of a percent of the way to totality. 99.9% coverage is two tenths of a percent of the way to totality.
Other famous quotes about 99% eclipses:
It's like almost winning the lottery.
It's like going to the Super Bowl but only to the stadium parking lot.

Which brings us to THIS:
For 08APR24 Gore says they’re gonna play Dark Side of The Moon & have $40 lift tickets for folks along with complimentary viewing glasses while supplies last. It’s a Monday & free for pass holders.

I don't think Gore is actually in the path of the totality.
Gore is NOT in totality.
TSE2024Gore.jpg


Also, the times stated on the Gore site are exactly the same as on the Whiteface site.
The shadow moves very fast, I'm guessing around 3,000mph in this part of the path. Maximum eclipse time of day in Whiteface is only 25 seconds different from Gore. Of course time in totality is 3 minutes 26 seconds at Whiteface and zero at Gore.
Holding a party for an eclipse that doesn't happen would be a legendary ORDA screw up.
Yes it would. The Anthony Lakes ski area in Oregon was just outside the northern limit in August 2017, planned a big event. I and presumably several others called them out on this when announced in February and they cancelled it about a week a later.

DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT GOING TO GORE FOR THIS!!! (Sorry, Harvey).

But Whiteface is going to screw this up too. If Liz were still in NYC, Whiteface is where she might most want to ski that day.
https://whiteface.com/event/solar-eclipse-viewing-party-apr-8/ "Due to a decrease in light and visibility during this event, we plan to close our ski lifts at 2 pm for the day, this includes the Cloudsplitter Gondola."
I showed her this, and got a one word answer, APPALLING! Part of the appeal is being on top of the mountain. As for the decrease in light and visibility, recall Jay Pasachoff's comment above about how light it still is as a 99% partial. Visibility for skiing will be just fine until about a minute before totality and and again a minute past totality. During totality as noted is about as bright as a full moon and all of us skiers have skied in worse. And even if you are on the slopes you will stop and look at the totality for those 3 1/2 minutes.
Jay Peak is already booking hotel rooms and tram rides with no opportunity to ski after the eclipse.
At least Jay will let you up the mountain for the eclipse and presumably you can ski most of the day before. But as noted above, you would be just fine to ski down by 3:35PM.

Harvey, here's an opportunity for you to use your visibility in the NY ski world to organize an effort to prevent ORDA from shooting itself in the foot at both Gore and Whiteface next April. As one addicted to both skiing and eclipses, I totally get the attraction of the "twofer" on the same day. But the plans as stated now by the ski areas are a deterrent, along with the weather prospects.
 
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