Did Mr Fish ever limit Indy pass sales in the past?
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MarzNC
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In the various interviews with Doug Fish, the idea of limiting overall sales of Indy never came up. What happened after the first years is that blackout dates were an option for each individual location. There is a price difference of about $100 for the version of Indy that doesn't have any blackout dates.
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"The cap on sales comes as some resorts have experienced a surge in visits on the Indy Pass, and is intended to prevent overcrowding. The cap will still allow Indy Pass to grow its consumer sales substantially next year, but the flexibility resorts have for adding or subtracting blackout days will enable them to avoid overcrowding.
Capacity has not been an issue to date, said Schroetel, but "it's one we see coming. In some cases we're hitting 20 to 30 percent of a resort's capacity on peak days. And we don't want that number to grow to an unmanageable level."
"I think the resorts will welcome the cap," Fish added."
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MarzNC
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Quite a shift from the early days. Good for Indy.More here:
"The cap on sales comes as some resorts have experienced a surge in visits on the Indy Pass, and is intended to prevent overcrowding. The cap will still allow Indy Pass to grow its consumer sales substantially next year, but the flexibility resorts have for adding or subtracting blackout days will enable them to avoid overcrowding.
Capacity has not been an issue to date, said Schroetel, but "it's one we see coming. In some cases we're hitting 20 to 30 percent of a resort's capacity on peak days. And we don't want that number to grow to an unmanageable level."
"I think the resorts will welcome the cap," Fish added."
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Sounds like the idea is that the cap is more than what the numbers were for 2022-23 so somewhat of a guess. Blackout dates are still the way for a specific resort to limit the number of Indy folks on busy days.
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Key Resorts Commit to Indy Pass for the 23/24 Season
Grand County, CO. (March 20, 2023) – The Indy Pass announced today a partial list of key resorts that have committed for the 23/24 season. Unlike the conglomerates, all Indy resorts are independently operated, and each one commits to a one-year contract. It requires weeks of polling to gain new annual commitments from all resorts, and the 23/24 roster is starting to take shape. We fully expect resort participation to continue growing; the following is not a complete list.
New Refund Policy
Any passholder who purchases during our early-bird pricing period will be eligible for the Indy Pass Partner Participation Promise. Pass holders are entitled to a full refund if the resorts they plan to visit are not participating in the program. Refund requests must be submitted by September 1, 2023.
Returning Resorts for 23/24
West
Mission Ridge WA
White Pass WA
Hoodoo OR
Mt. Shasta CA
Dodge Ridge CA
China Peak CA
Mountain High CA
Rockies
Powder Mountain UT
Beaver Mountain UT
Brundage ID
Silver Mountain ID
Red Lodge MT
Lost Trail MT
Midwest
Lutsen Mountains MN
Granite Peak WI
Snowriver MI
Big Powderhorn MI
Nubs Nob MI
Crystal Mountain MI
East
Jay Peak VT
Waterville Valley NH
Cannon Mountain NH
Bolton Valley VT
Saddleback ME
Pats Peak NH
Berkshire East MA
Greek Peak NY
23/24 passes are on sale for current and former passholders only. The Adult Base Pass is $279, and the Adult Indy+ Pass is $379 for zero blackout days (see complete pass pricing below). Passholder early bird pricing ends at midnight on March 21.
After a year of remarkable sales growth that saw significant visitation by Indy Pass holders across the US, restrictions have been placed on the number of passes sold for the 23/24 season to preserve the Indy experience at participating resorts.
New Waitlist for Non-Indy Passholders
A waitlist has been created for non-Indy Pass holders who wish to reserve exclusive access to available pass inventory before the general public. The waitlist can be joined at indyskipass.com through March 23. The waitlist member purchasing opportunity begins on March 24 and ends on March 30. General public sales begin on April 1.
Payment Plan - Adult Pass As Low As 35 Dollars per Month
Pass buyers can pay for their passes in up to eight installments with no interest, meaning an adult base pass would cost less than 35 dollars a month. Buyers should note that the Indy pass payment plan is underwritten and delivered by Indy Pass, meaning there are no outside approvals, credit checks, and bankers like some mega passes.
No More Service Charge - Commemorative RFID Passes to be Issued
The 3% service fee typically charged on all Indy Passes at checkout will be eliminated for the 23/24 season. In exchange, all pass holders will be mailed a custom-designed 23/24 commemorative, RFID-enabled Indy Pass with a photo for a $10 fee. The physical Indy Pass will include benefits such as direct-to-lift access at select Indy resorts, expedited lift ticket pick-up at all Indy resorts, and discounts on products and services from Indy Pass partners.
Indy Pass Holder Loyalty Pricing through March 21. Waitlist pricing to be announced on March 23.
Passholder Pricing
Adult Indy Base Pass $279
Adult Indy+ Pass $379 (no blackouts)
Kids Indy Base Pass $149
Kids Indy+ Pass $189
XC Pass - Adults $69, Kids $29
For Season Passholders at Partner and Allied Resorts Only
Adult Indy AddOn Pass $199
Adult Indy+ AddOn Pass $299
Kids Indy AddOn Pass $99
Kids Indy+ AddOn Pass $149
Note: All prices are for current and former Indy Pass holders only. Kids Passes are designated for 12-and-under only. The exclusive current and former Indy Pass holder buying period ends on March 21, 2023.
Grand County, CO. (March 20, 2023) – The Indy Pass announced today a partial list of key resorts that have committed for the 23/24 season. Unlike the conglomerates, all Indy resorts are independently operated, and each one commits to a one-year contract. It requires weeks of polling to gain new annual commitments from all resorts, and the 23/24 roster is starting to take shape. We fully expect resort participation to continue growing; the following is not a complete list.
New Refund Policy
Any passholder who purchases during our early-bird pricing period will be eligible for the Indy Pass Partner Participation Promise. Pass holders are entitled to a full refund if the resorts they plan to visit are not participating in the program. Refund requests must be submitted by September 1, 2023.
Returning Resorts for 23/24
West
Mission Ridge WA
White Pass WA
Hoodoo OR
Mt. Shasta CA
Dodge Ridge CA
China Peak CA
Mountain High CA
Rockies
Powder Mountain UT
Beaver Mountain UT
Brundage ID
Silver Mountain ID
Red Lodge MT
Lost Trail MT
Midwest
Lutsen Mountains MN
Granite Peak WI
Snowriver MI
Big Powderhorn MI
Nubs Nob MI
Crystal Mountain MI
East
Jay Peak VT
Waterville Valley NH
Cannon Mountain NH
Bolton Valley VT
Saddleback ME
Pats Peak NH
Berkshire East MA
Greek Peak NY
23/24 passes are on sale for current and former passholders only. The Adult Base Pass is $279, and the Adult Indy+ Pass is $379 for zero blackout days (see complete pass pricing below). Passholder early bird pricing ends at midnight on March 21.
After a year of remarkable sales growth that saw significant visitation by Indy Pass holders across the US, restrictions have been placed on the number of passes sold for the 23/24 season to preserve the Indy experience at participating resorts.
New Waitlist for Non-Indy Passholders
A waitlist has been created for non-Indy Pass holders who wish to reserve exclusive access to available pass inventory before the general public. The waitlist can be joined at indyskipass.com through March 23. The waitlist member purchasing opportunity begins on March 24 and ends on March 30. General public sales begin on April 1.
Payment Plan - Adult Pass As Low As 35 Dollars per Month
Pass buyers can pay for their passes in up to eight installments with no interest, meaning an adult base pass would cost less than 35 dollars a month. Buyers should note that the Indy pass payment plan is underwritten and delivered by Indy Pass, meaning there are no outside approvals, credit checks, and bankers like some mega passes.
No More Service Charge - Commemorative RFID Passes to be Issued
The 3% service fee typically charged on all Indy Passes at checkout will be eliminated for the 23/24 season. In exchange, all pass holders will be mailed a custom-designed 23/24 commemorative, RFID-enabled Indy Pass with a photo for a $10 fee. The physical Indy Pass will include benefits such as direct-to-lift access at select Indy resorts, expedited lift ticket pick-up at all Indy resorts, and discounts on products and services from Indy Pass partners.
Indy Pass Holder Loyalty Pricing through March 21. Waitlist pricing to be announced on March 23.
Passholder Pricing
Adult Indy Base Pass $279
Adult Indy+ Pass $379 (no blackouts)
Kids Indy Base Pass $149
Kids Indy+ Pass $189
XC Pass - Adults $69, Kids $29
For Season Passholders at Partner and Allied Resorts Only
Adult Indy AddOn Pass $199
Adult Indy+ AddOn Pass $299
Kids Indy AddOn Pass $99
Kids Indy+ AddOn Pass $149
Note: All prices are for current and former Indy Pass holders only. Kids Passes are designated for 12-and-under only. The exclusive current and former Indy Pass holder buying period ends on March 21, 2023.
TheGreatAbyss
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I know this is "preliminary", but seems like a lot of dropouts. I was hoping to use it next year in the Poconos to take my then 3 year old.
MarzNC
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With the shift in ownership, feels like the list was put out early instead of waiting for a response from all the places that had a contract for 2022-23. As noted at the start: "Unlike the conglomerates, all Indy resorts are independently operated, and each one commits to a one-year contract. It requires weeks of polling to gain new annual commitments from all resorts, and the 23/24 roster is starting to take shape. We fully expect resort participation to continue growing; the following is not a complete list."
I noticed Berkshire East is on the list but Catamount is not. I would guess that dealing the legal paperwork that's different from the previous year can easily slow down a process by weeks for some resorts that are still busy with late season operations.
TheGreatAbyss
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Oh wow, I completely missed this! Looks like they are adding a physical RFID pass as well which is huge. Saddleback was an absolute cluster Saturday morning with people waiting an hour to redeem.
Peter Minde
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Renewed my XC Indy Pass this morning.
