OK, so I grew up in Queens (Howard Beach), and now I live in Poughkeepsie, so I think I have a good understanding. "Upstate" is like "young" and "old" in that it is relative. When you are 20, anyone under 16 is "young" and anyone over 30 is "old". When you are in your 50s, "young" is anyone under 40 (or 45?). So, when I was a Scout and we went camping, we went "upstate" to Sanita Hills in southern Dutchess, and TMR in Sullivan County. Living in Po-town, I drive "down to the City" but "upstate to the Adirondacks". I certainly don't think of myself living upstate, but probably most people south of Tarrytown would say I do.