Yup and throw some bones outside the Hudson River watershed too. There’s a lot more to The UpState than that.
ORDA's Biggest Wins
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gregmarx
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I'm sure this is true to some extent, but it seems to me also the case that w/r/t skiers in the NYC metro they are jointly in competition with VT (and with places in PA and the Catskills, insofar as part of the challenge is convincing people to drive more than 2.5 hours).
I'm sure this has been hashed out elsewhere on this site but to the extent that boosting visitation in the Adirondacks is a goal, it sure feels like an effective marketing campaign could help. Gore and Mount Snow have very different layouts and I could see preferring one over the other depending on what your logistics needs/skiing interests are, but based on what I can find through 2 min of googling, Gore's skier visits, which have been pretty flat, are less than half of what Mount Snow's were prior to the Vail purchase. (I couldn't find more recent for Mt. Snow; is Vail required to break that out by resort anywhere?)
Given that those mountains are essentially equidistant from midtown Manhattan, roughly comparably sized, and that Gore's walkup price is significantly cheaper -- and even allowing for limited lodging options near Gore and the fact that Mount Snow will also draw people from the southern I-91 corridor and Boston -- it should be possible to move those numbers closer together, I'd think.
With respect to competition between Gore/Whiteface, for me personally, having had good experiences at Gore (and Belleayre) is going to make me more inclined to consider Whiteface in the future than I had been (though tbh for a 5+-hour trip I'm probably gonna choose VT a few more times before making it to Whiteface).
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raisingarizona
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Hot damn. If 20 years ago you told me that Belleayre was one day going to trump Hunter (now a part of Vail Enterprises) for snowmaking capabilities and popularity I would thought you were crazy and yet, here we are.
It's totally wild man.
This right here is definitely ORDAS greatest victory.
It's totally wild man.
This right here is definitely ORDAS greatest victory.
D.B. Cooper
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I'm quick to slag ORDA (as and when deserved IMO), but I have to say this is one a really big win. I can't think of a bigger one.
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If my numbers are accurate (they are from 15 years of annual reports), then in a big year when Belle did 60k over last year, the three ski areas would be at 700,000 visits? So 300,000 from the venues?
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ORDA Skier Visits: Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre
NYSkiBlog's update of ORDA skier visits and revenue for NY's state-owned ski areas, Whiteface, Gore Mountain and Belleayre Ski Center.
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D.B. Cooper
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Probably 20,000+ of those folks were Polish supporters at the FIS ski jumping event. I suppose they count Ironman participants and volunteers as the oval is used.
D.B. Cooper
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Wild, yet in line with society these days
From the recent audit committee meeting.If my numbers are accurate (they are from 15 years of annual reports), then in a big year when Belle did 60k over last year, the three ski areas would be at 700,000 visits? So 300,000 from the venues?
ORDA Skier Visits: Whiteface, Gore, Belleayre
NYSkiBlog's update of ORDA skier visits and revenue for NY's state-owned ski areas, Whiteface, Gore Mountain and Belleayre Ski Center.
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What a surprise that there is still no mention of Gore's visit totals. Belleayre's visits increased from last year to this year by about 35% from 179k to 237K. Imagine if last year's reported Gore visits of 216K increased by 35%, the total would be 291k visits. Imagine what Gore's revenue would be and how that would help the area in and around North Creek.
Belleayre has been helped immensely by Vail's utter failure at Hunter. But they are making the most of their mountain and deserve big kudos. Belleayre always had this potential due to it's location. I am happy they are providing such a great product and people are visiting.
ORDA continues to ignore the potential gold mine that exists at Gore.
Belleayre has been helped immensely by Vail's utter failure at Hunter. But they are making the most of their mountain and deserve big kudos. Belleayre always had this potential due to it's location. I am happy they are providing such a great product and people are visiting.
ORDA continues to ignore the potential gold mine that exists at Gore.
