ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

Listen, I am encouraged that somebody is working on it but that article is full of illustrations and "we're gonna"s- nothing substantive. There's not even a concept car. I doubt Tesla's will end up being as cheap as they project and I doubt VW's even happens. They say it'll be available maybe in 2025, which is far enough off that they know nobody will remember this by then. Let's be honest, this thread has been political boosterism from the start. That's fine and all but I remain skeptical, both that EVs are the answer to our problems and that the current crop of EVs are capable of replacing my Subaru, much less my Honda Pilot. And nobody has answered the questions about the electrical grid or the long term disposal/ recycling of the batteries with anything but happy talk.
 
this thread has been political boosterism from the start.
I guess what I said at the end of the new normal thread may be right. We can't discuss anything of importance here.

Quote me the politics and I'll take some action.
 
Here comes a $24k electric car
Damn and look where it’s made? They will probably build them out of all their garbage, things on this site do get challenged etc but it’s kept pretty cool, it good that this site is inclusive so we get the full spectrum of “ opinions “ that last picture of Ted’s though shit like that balance things out, brought back memories of Clays
paddle on
 
I thought it was more of a back and forth about something new and possibly better. When someone says “What about the grid?” I post about my friend who drives a plug in hybrid and has a solar system with a backup battery power wall. He is independent from it. “What about the floods” and I post a video of a Tesla driving through water. “They are so expensive” so I post that they are bringing the cost down. That’s all. My wife and I share an Outlander PHEV as our daily and my nephew and I share a gas pickup for work. My next truck will probably be a diesel since the electric ones won’t be for a while. Looking forward to making the transition when possible. My first choice will always be a bicycle.
 
If you're fine with it whatever politics you are seeing not sure why you pointed it out. The sweet car thread that is largely fossil fuel cars, do you see politics there? Maybe bring up politics when you think it is over the line. Otherwise don't introduce it to the thread yourself, if you don't want it to go there.

Concept cars have alway been mental exercises and many have never really happened:


Dreaming is part of new product development.
 
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