ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

[x10003q]

Not sure how you call that a small modification. Or am I not getting the joke.

Still, sometimes it takes some crazy to invent the future. eg Elon.

You mean everybody doesn't have a CNC machine in their garage?

 

[jasonwx]

You mean everybody doesn't have a CNC machine in their garage?

I know 2 people that do

 

[DomB]

This is interesting - this shows you how small the EV market is right now. R1T sold similar to X (2.9 vs 3.2 % of market). Shows they are actually making R1s but small numbers. Over 11,000 R1ts (kind of annoying to me as T orders from this year have been filled I think but no S - that's life).

https://www.coxautoinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Q3-2022-Kelley-Blue-Book-Electrified-Vehicle-Sales-Report.pdf

 

[Harvey]

https://www.coxautoinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Q3-2022-Kelley-Blue-Book-Electrified-Vehicle-Sales-Report.pdf

That's interesting to see. Would be very cool if it was an excel and you could rank it.

Toyota is he hybrid king, Tesla EV. Some cars that were sold last year have zero sales this year?

Also curious Dom, you have been through a lot with Rivian. Why are you so devoted?

 

[Brownski]

I saw a Rivian S parked in Westchester. It was blah- zero curb appeal. I understand why they’re pushing the trucks- from a marketing perspective

 

[Warp daddy]

I frankly do NOT get Rivian at all for the price point .

 

[Brownski]

They’re depending on conspicuous consumption to sell lower quality vehicles to rich people. If the technology was there to build a practical EV that normal people could afford, somebody would do it.

 

[Harvey]

I frankly do NOT get Rivian at all for the price point .

Early adapters are not all about money. People have all kinds of reasons for buying things. Is a muscle car really worth it? Yes, to the person who buys it. It's why they buy it. It's worth it to them, for whatever reason.

 

[Brownski]

OK. I won’t belabor the point.

 

[Harvey]

You may be right. Just saying this is not an isolated example of people buying stuff for reasons other people don't understand.

By some measures (like getting from point a to point b) the cheapest reliable car out there is 90% as good as a lexus or whatever.