ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

GM will go all electric by 2035 until they don't. The market will determine what they do. I happen to think that by 2035 battery capacity and charging time will be on par with ICE. If that is the case, the odds are GM will be close to electric. As a skier, electric does not work for me. I would rather not add any more complications to go skiing.
 
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As a skier, eventually it will be more complicated to fill your tank than to charge your EV. Technological change is impossible until it is inevitable. Switching to EVs is a smaller change than it was to give up horses for Model Ts.

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Hydrogen fuel cells appear to be the better option to ICE's. The problem is the hydrogen filling infrastructure. Everyone has an electric outlet at their house. So EV is the quickest alternative to ICE's.
But for truck fleets, aviation, and other large fleets, hydrogen seems like the way to go. No large heavy batteries that hurt mileage and also take up more space than a fuel cell. There are already warehouses generating hydrogen from solar roof panels and running their fork truck fleets on hydrogen. Only a few minutes to fuel up. And if the fueling stations were readily available, range and charging time would not be a problem.
In fact one of the companies at the forefront of this technology is headquartered in Latham, NY and opening a new Innovation Center in Rochester.
 
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Hydrogen fuel cells appear to be the better option to ICE's. The problem is the hydrogen filling infrastructure. Everyone has an electric outlet at their house. So EV is the quickest alternative to ICE's.
But for truck fleets, aviation, and other large fleets, hydrogen seems like the way to go. No large heavy batteries that hurt mileage and also take up more space than a fuel cell. There are already warehouses generating hydrogen from solar roof panels and running their fork truck fleets on hydrogen. Only a few minutes to fuel up. And if the fueling stations were readily available, range and charging time would not be a problem.
In fact one of the companies at the forefront of this technology is headquartered in Latham, NY and opening a new Innovation Center in Rochester.
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In grad school at Oxford (Ole Miss) the chairman of the medchem dept at the Pharmacy school got his PhD at MIT from the father of Borohydrides. This was when folks were waiting in line for gas at home up north. He was preaching using hydrogen for vehicles back then. Ya can make hydrogen & oxygen by simply by splitting H2O with electricity.
Dude who got the Nobel prize for photosynthesis came to town around the same time to dedicate the brand new chemistry building. He was preaching using oil from plants as a cost effective, environmentally sound solution to our energy needs.
And there’s always that dark horse, ethanol.
 
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As a skier (with a family), I do not relish the idea of losing up to 40% of my (weak) range in my $50k plus vehicle due to low temps in the winter. I do not relish having to add 45 minutes to a 3.5 hour drive on Friday night/Sunday night hitting a supercharger. I also do not relish hoping that there might be an outside 120v plug available at my lodging (not buried by snow or non-existant) just to try and keep the battery warm at night and not lose any range. As I said, as a skier, electric does not work for me.
 
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