ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

I think Tesla's first profit was 2020, and they were in business for 10 or 15 years before that? I guess Elon is saying he was smart and kept his operation small while it was losing money.

Building charging into the road sounds kind of like a train or trolley car to me.
 
Harvey said:
I think Tesla's first profit was 2020, and they were in business for 10 or 15 years before that? I guess Elon is saying he was smart and kept his operation small while it was losing money.

Building charging into the road sounds kind of like a train or trolley car to me.
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He is full of crap. He sold carbon credits to make money. He loves to bitch about the "Government", but those carbon credits are the only reason Tesla survived.
 
Harvey said:
Building charging into the road sounds kind of like a train or trolley car to me.
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There is a mine in Canada that is testing out having electric trucks based on having electric lines overhead. The article includes a video clip.

June 10, 2022 (Canada)
globalnews.ca

B.C. mine’s electrified trucks a Canadian first, with goal of net-zero GHG emissions | Globalnews.ca

The system electrifies mining trucks with trolley wires and poles similar to those used on transit buses power buses in urban centres, but on a giant scale.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca
" . . .
To get a sense of the system, picture the trolley wires and poles used to electrically power buses in urban centres, but on a giant scale.

The cables currently cover a one-kilometre stretch out of the pit, with seven trucks equipped to take advantage of the electricity.

Walt Halipchuck, the company’s director of sustainable business development, spearheaded the initiative.

A traditional haul truck, he said, burns about 35 litres of diesel fuel on the one-kilometre climb out of the mining pit. The new trolley-assisted trucks burn under one litre for the same trip.

“The GHGs are basically less than 1 kg of GHG emissions, compared to about 85kg of GHG CO2 with diesel,” he said.

The program is the first of its kind in B.C. and Canada, and the first time a similar system has been used in North America since the 1980s, according to the company.
. . ."
 
MarzNC said:
There is a mine in Canada that is testing out having electric trucks based on having electric lines overhead. The article includes a video clip.

June 10, 2022 (Canada)
globalnews.ca

B.C. mine’s electrified trucks a Canadian first, with goal of net-zero GHG emissions | Globalnews.ca

The system electrifies mining trucks with trolley wires and poles similar to those used on transit buses power buses in urban centres, but on a giant scale.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca
" . . .
To get a sense of the system, picture the trolley wires and poles used to electrically power buses in urban centres, but on a giant scale.

The cables currently cover a one-kilometre stretch out of the pit, with seven trucks equipped to take advantage of the electricity.

Walt Halipchuck, the company’s director of sustainable business development, spearheaded the initiative.

A traditional haul truck, he said, burns about 35 litres of diesel fuel on the one-kilometre climb out of the mining pit. The new trolley-assisted trucks burn under one litre for the same trip.

“The GHGs are basically less than 1 kg of GHG emissions, compared to about 85kg of GHG CO2 with diesel,” he said.

The program is the first of its kind in B.C. and Canada, and the first time a similar system has been used in North America since the 1980s, according to the company.
. . ."
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How’s the electricity made to power the trucks?
If it isn't nuclear, hydropower, solar or wind ya got to add that CO2 into their equations...
 
tirolski said:
How’s the electricity made to power the trucks?
If it isn't nuclear, hydropower, solar or wind ya got to add that CO2 into their equations...
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Not sure. The Canadian who posted the link to another ski forum keeps noting that Canada has a lot of hydropower.
 
MarzNC said:
Not sure. The Canadian who posted the link to another ski forum keeps noting that Canada has a lot of hydropower.
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I found this on my phone maps by accident. Not sure how much power it generates but pretty ingenious use .
www.planetary.org

Manicouagan Reservoir Crater

Around 214 million years ago, an asteroid about 5 kilometers (3 miles) in diameter slammed into what is now Quebec, Canada, creating a crater about 100…
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