Gore Mountain Conditions

[SDC]

No, but I know what people will do if the price is right. The industry I work in can be very dirty and very dangerous with terrible hours, but when a person sees 300k at the end of the year, it is easy to come to work every day. Obviously, a snowmaker will never make that kind of money, but if the wage is livable for those 5/6 months, that will attract people.

 

[Harvey]

Vail patrol wanted health insurance that went all year. I don't know if they got it.

The question for the employer is, do you want employees with families? That's what the insurance represents... the ability to sustain family life.

 

[Cork]

Unfortunately, as many current or past orda employees will say, they loved their job, but the benefits weren't there. ORDA spends ungodly amount of money each year on infrastructure, with very little oversight, so why can't they spend some of that on the people that make those infrastructures work??? Case in point Gore MT snowmaking 2024-2025

Kinda ironic that the highest paid employees working at Gore currently, are the Union employees, working at Rate Job, at the new lodge at the ski bowl...

And before you bitch, I have nothing against Unions, and kinda think CSEA representing the Gore employees needs to pick up the slack.

 

[sig]

the liftie working the top ridge triple looked like he was 12 years old. if they could hire staff as fulltime state workers, the workforce would be stronger. the pay and benefits would make the jobs desirable. challenge is somehow making the job year round.

 

[Alfredeneumann]

the liftie working the top ridge triple looked like he was 12 years old. if they could hire staff as fulltime state workers, the workforce would be stronger. the pay and benefits would make the jobs desirable. challenge is somehow making the job year round.

That ain’t happenin’ . It’s a seasonal job. I would guess that most Gore employees are employed somewhere in the tourism industry during the summer.

 

[snoloco]

Seeing the improvement in snowmaking after sending help in from Belleayre, it really seems that Gore's management culture and priorities need a reset. In my opinion, the following things need to be done:

1. Set expectations that snowmaking is to always be at maximum capacity, whether that is air or water, and ensure that there are adequate snowmaking crews to allow for this. Given all the low-e guns, they should be maxed out on water a lot more often than they are on air.

2. Ditch the thin to win snowmaking strategy that has been so common at Gore in recent years. Full width coverage, and enough depth to last through thaw cycles should be expected on every trail.

3. Set goals for when certain trails/lifts/areas need to open, and work to achieve them. Ideally this would be all lifts and mountain areas by Christmas, then something like 80% of snowmaking trails by MLK Weekend, with 100% of snowmaking trails being complete in early February.

While it is easy to say that Bruce saved Whiteface, and he certainly did help, he is not micromanaging snowmaking there. The snowmaking decisions are made by the mountain's own team.

 

[Harvey]

Yeah but...

The bottom line in the cause of the issues this year are lack of help and lack of experience with the help that they have.

You are talking tactics, Cork is showing cause.

As I saw Monday, we can do it!