ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

[DomB]

@DomB What state/utility do you live in where you do all that complicated solar credit arbitrage? I have a 35+ year old roof that needs to be replaced and starting to look into solar, though not sure it's worth it with a large tree I'd rather not cut down. I believe in Jersey you don't get any credits for over producing, but you do get a solar-rec credit of $85/MWh for the energy that you consume.

Hey - NY. The rate plan I have is no longer available according to my bro (they grandfather plans here). Psegli.

I will say when I have eyeballed NJ incentives they look generous.

The plan I have is 3 different rates. Peak (4-7 pm) pays out 4:1 compared to overnight.

I was also allowed to bulk up my size because I had an ev coming (the R1s). If I don’t change plans I should be able to carry two micro electrics (like ev3) and the riv or a model 3 and a riv.

A battery costs more but allows more arbitrage as if you program your times in it charges when cheap and discharges when expensive.

Good luck. Research important in this area. Also ask them if new plans are coming sometimes they will tell u.

 

[DomB]

following... I'm in the same boat. I was holding out for the Tesla shingles but it doesn't look like that's happening anytime soon.

I liked the look they just are too inefficient compared to panels.

 

[TheGreatAbyss]

following... I'm in the same boat. I was holding out for the Tesla shingles but it doesn't look like that's happening anytime soon.

Yeah, they are stupidly expensive.

GAF
and
https://www.certainteed.com/products/solar-products/sunstyle

both make solar shingles, but not sure how prevalent they are in the NE.

 

[TheGreatAbyss]

Good luck. Research important in this area. Also ask them if new plans are coming sometimes they will tell u.

Ask who if new plans are coming, PSEG?

Anything I should research specifically? I've been using EnergySage which is nice cause they give you a breakdown of the preliminary quotes at least

 

[DomB]

Ask who if new plans are coming, PSEG?

Anything I should research specifically? I've been using EnergySage which is nice cause they give you a breakdown of the preliminary quotes at least

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Yes - ask your utility provider. Mine is psegli.

Also solar companies give detailed quotes.

 

[Campgottagopee]

I Calculated Every Penny for 50,000 Miles, My Tesla Model 3 Costs 15 Cents Per Mile, My Chevy Bolt Costs More, But My Old Toyota Is Still Winning

Think EVs are always cheaper? This deep dive into 50,000 miles of driving reveals the surprising Tesla Model 3 cost per mile and how an old Toyota still comes out on top.

www.torquenews.com

 

[Tjf1967]

I Calculated Every Penny for 50,000 Miles, My Tesla Model 3 Costs 15 Cents Per Mile, My Chevy Bolt Costs More, But My Old Toyota Is Still Winning

Think EVs are always cheaper? This deep dive into 50,000 miles of driving reveals the surprising Tesla Model 3 cost per mile and how an old Toyota still comes out on top.

www.torquenews.com

What did you get out of it? The model 3 is going to be cheaper to run then a Corolla.

Remember Paul Bunyan? It's coming old man even president retard can't stop it

 

[Campgottagopee]

According to his logs, the Model 3 RWD clocked in at 15 cents per mile in fuel and maintenance. The Bolt? Slightly worse. But even those figures paled next to his dearly departed Corolla, which, once depreciation was factored in, ran just 20 cents per mile overall. The Tesla ballooned to 34 cents. That’s not a minor difference.

 

[Campgottagopee]

It's coming old man

I'm not convinced
EV's are still brand new. More and more studies/reports will be coming out. If it does happen, whatever "savings" EV owners feel they are getting will be gone once the government starts loosing tax dollars from petroleum. I don't care what retard is president, they will be taxing it.

 

[Harvey]

I think they are already taxing? I can't remember the specifics.