The Whole SKI3 Frequent Skier Card Thing

ORDA has unfortunately completely butchered the Frequent Skier Card for the 2022-2023 season. While the price of the card was reduced slightly, they completely got rid of the free first and every 6th day. Let's do some math to show how much worse of a deal it is compared to the old model. For the old model, I will assume the cost of the card is equal to the walk-up window rate. For both models, I will use the published FSC rates, and assume the walk-up ticket price is 109 dollars, based on the FSC rate being 25% off on weekends. This way, we have a baseline to compare the per visit cost using the FSC.

I'm using the format of Day x: i,a where i = incremental cost per day and a = average cost per day.

2022-2023 FSC

FSC price: 59
Day 1: 82, 141
Day 2: 82, 111.50
Day 3: 82, 101.67
Day 4: 82, 96.75
Day 5: 82, 93.80
Day 6: 82, 91.83
Day 7: 82, 90.43
Day 8: 82, 89.38
Day 9: 82, 88.56
Day 10: 82, 87.90
Day 11: 82, 87.36
Day 12: 82, 86.92
Total cost: 1043

Old FSC model

FSC price: 109
Day 1: 0, 109
Day 2: 82, 95.50
Day 3: 82, 91.00
Day 4: 82, 88.75
Day 5: 82, 87.40
Day 6: 0, 72.83
Day 7: 82, 74.14
Day 8: 82, 75.13
Day 9: 82, 75.89
Day 10: 82, 76.50
Day 11: 82, 77.00
Day 12: 0, 70.58
Total cost: 847

The numbers don't lie and show that the new model is a complete rip off compared to the old one, particularly if you ski on the weekends. It's very hard to come out ahead when you have to pay to get a discount. Also, these calculations don't take into account the online purchase discount for single day tickets, or the fact that the FSC rate is the same all year, even when they drop ticket prices early and late season. It's an exact dollar amount, not an exact percentage..

Also, comparing to other resorts, while Killington no longer has a frequent skier card in the model of Gore's, they do sell pre-season "K-Tickets" for 50% off the window rate each fall. It's a fixed dollar amount, so not really useful early or late season, but this gives you a far greater savings if you know the exact number of days you want to ski. These tickets also have no blackouts.

I believe the only people who would benefit from the current frequent skier card are those who mostly ski midweek, and those who want to avoid potential sellouts of day tickets. I was planning to get a frequent skier card at the ORDA mountains, but with them being less valuable and more expensive to use, I won't bother.
 
Solid analysis there are snoloco thanks for that. I disagree with the characterization "rip off." It's capitalism. Price your product however you choose. If customers don't see value they won't buy.

I wonder what the average number of days on a frequent skier card is?

I'm not gonna lie the thing I like about frequency here card is one of the same things I like about the seasons pass straight to the lift and you can't be locked out.

Although I do think being locked out is probably a thing of the past I guess we'll see this year.
 
I was a big fan of FSC for many years but glad I moved up to season pass last season. But I miss the push to get to the 3rd free day!
 
FSC is $59 and if yer :
  • an old fart (65-69) tickets are $43 (M-F) and $64 weekends and Holidays.
  • a really old fart (>70) tickets are $25 and $38 respectively..

Seems like it’s still a decent deal. Wonder why they changed it.
 
Also, comparing to other resorts, while Killington no longer has a frequent skier card in the model of Gore's, they do sell pre-season "K-Tickets" for 50% off the window rate each fall. It's a fixed dollar amount, so not really useful early or late season, but this gives you a far greater savings if you know the exact number of days you want to ski. These tickets also have no blackouts.
I believe the only people who would benefit from the current frequent skier card are those who mostly ski midweek, and those who want to avoid potential sellouts of day tickets. I was planning to get a frequent skier card at the ORDA mountains, but with them being less valuable and more expensive to use, I won't bother.
I cant really commit to ski days months in advance. I definitely would never do that in the north east.

Great posts Sno, I really enjoy hearing your thoughts and insights on the ski business.
 
A really nice feature of the Killington "K Ticket" is you can buy a bunch of them and then assign them to people later in the season when its time to ski. I am going to buy a bunch before the deadline, and its nice to know I can give one to my daughter if she wants to come along when she's home for Christmas break.
 
A really nice feature of the Killington "K Ticket" is you can buy a bunch of them and then assign them to people later in the season when its time to ski. I am going to buy a bunch before the deadline, and its nice to know I can give one to my daughter if she wants to come along when she's home for Christmas break.
Ahh, there not secured dates.
 
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