ORDA Funding

[Stevemc]

Really interesting article, as someone who prides myself on financial efficiency but also someone who wants to see Gore, North Creek and the rest of the Adirondacks thrive I am conflicted. My biggest worry is that one day a different administration comes into Albany and cuts off ORDA and starts a giant downward spiral.

They should be held accountable for their spending but if the question is - is it working ? I think so. They've converted me to a loyal Ski3 patron. Compared to what vail offers I love the ORDA product. Probably wouldn't have said that 7 yrs ago. That said I get that locally folks have some issues

I did like basing out of the ski bowl and skiing 46er this year.

 

[tirolski]

Another Mann “interview” piece... The hits just keep on hitting.

An investigation into ORDA's 'billion dollar bet' in the Adirondacks

Brian and Nicholas Mann in Adirondack Life took a deep dive into New York’s massive, risky investment of taxpayer money into winter sports and tourism, mostly in Lake Placid.

www.northcountrypublicradio.org

 

[tirolski]

New piece regarding the economic impact of ORDA.

New study pegs ORDA economic impact at $342M

LAKE PLACID — A new report says the Olympic Regional Development Authority has a direct economic impact of about $342 million on the region.

www.pressrepublican.com

"A new report says the Olympic Regional Development Authority has a direct economic impact of about $342 million on the region. The study by the research firm Tourism Economics said ORDA also supported 3,414 jobs and generated $25 million in state and local tax revenues."

Ain’t there any research firms in NY studying economic impacts?

About

...combine an understanding of the travel sector with proven economic tools to answer the most important questions facing our clients.

www.tourismeconomics.com

"Tourism Economics operates out of regional headquarters in Philadelphia and Oxford with offices in Belfast, Buenos Aires, Dubai, Frankfurt, London and Ontario."

 

[Stevemc]

These posts of yers earlier today in the Gore conditions thread makes me believe ya didn’t see it coming but may have had some sense of it coming.

So glad there are no slopeside condos.

and

Gore marches forward in a slow way, but they do continuously move forward. They may not do what you (I) want first. It may not be what the GM wants either. IMO gondolas and lodges and stuff are often dreams of governors.
I've said this before, I enjoy almost everything Gore has done. All the new terrain since 2000 is just wow IMO. But I also like the fact that it happens slowly.

Agree. I like everything Gore and Placid have done. It's truly abc enjoyable ski experience.

 

[tirolski]

Gotta bid on the Piston Bullies as one lot.
"The following personal property is available for sale “AS IS, WHERE IS”as a SINGLE LOT and the New York State Olympic Regional Development Authority (“Olympic Authority”) gives no warranty whatsoever as to its condition.

Property Disposition - ORDA Corporate

Currently, there are no property disposition items to bid on. When another bid is available, you can view the additional tab(s) below for any property disposition item information and forms to complete.

orda.org

2016 Piston Bully Groomer 400 Park S/N 824.11641 with reported 5500+/- hours (unable to verify hours). Vehicle does not run.
2012 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 826.11651 with 13895 hours...Overall poor condition.
2015 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 826.11996 with 8200 hours...Overall fair condition.
2014 Piston Bully Groomer 600W S/N 826.12016 with 7500 hours...Currently winch will not tension, unresolved problem. Kombi tracks fair, blade good, tiller shafts worn and need replacement.
2018 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 828.10048 with 4300 hours...Hydrostatic drive system run out of fluid, both planetaries/brakes are failed and need replacement. Possible damage to drive pumps and motors. Machine does not drive or move."

Whataway to run an airline.

 

[Peter Minde]

Gotta bid on the Piston Bullies as one lot.
"The following personal property is available for sale “AS IS, WHERE IS”as a SINGLE LOT and the New York State Olympic Regional Development Authority (“Olympic Authority”) gives no warranty whatsoever as to its condition.

Property Disposition - ORDA Corporate

Currently, there are no property disposition items to bid on. When another bid is available, you can view the additional tab(s) below for any property disposition item information and forms to complete.

orda.org

2016 Piston Bully Groomer 400 Park S/N 824.11641 with reported 5500+/- hours (unable to verify hours). Vehicle does not run.
2012 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 826.11651 with 13895 hours...Overall poor condition.
2015 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 826.11996 with 8200 hours...Overall fair condition.
2014 Piston Bully Groomer 600W S/N 826.12016 with 7500 hours...Currently winch will not tension, unresolved problem. Kombi tracks fair, blade good, tiller shafts worn and need replacement.
2018 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 828.10048 with 4300 hours...Hydrostatic drive system run out of fluid, both planetaries/brakes are failed and need replacement. Possible damage to drive pumps and motors. Machine does not drive or move."

Whataway to run an airline.

Someone help me with this, is 4300 hours a lot of use for one of these?

 

[trackbiker]

Gotta bid on the Piston Bullies as one lot.
"The following personal property is available for sale “AS IS, WHERE IS”as a SINGLE LOT and the New York State Olympic Regional Development Authority (“Olympic Authority”) gives no warranty whatsoever as to its condition.

Property Disposition - ORDA Corporate

Currently, there are no property disposition items to bid on. When another bid is available, you can view the additional tab(s) below for any property disposition item information and forms to complete.

orda.org

2016 Piston Bully Groomer 400 Park S/N 824.11641 with reported 5500+/- hours (unable to verify hours). Vehicle does not run.
2012 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 826.11651 with 13895 hours...Overall poor condition.
2015 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 826.11996 with 8200 hours...Overall fair condition.
2014 Piston Bully Groomer 600W S/N 826.12016 with 7500 hours...Currently winch will not tension, unresolved problem. Kombi tracks fair, blade good, tiller shafts worn and need replacement.
2018 Piston Bully Groomer 600 S/N 828.10048 with 4300 hours...Hydrostatic drive system run out of fluid, both planetaries/brakes are failed and need replacement. Possible damage to drive pumps and motors. Machine does not drive or move."

Whataway to run an airline.

The oldest one is only 11 years old? One only 5 years old? Who is maintaining these things? Evidently no one. How much do these things cost?
They need to hire a fleet manager to insure that these things are properly operated and maintained. The payback would be huge.
Can anyone name another ski area that beats up their groomers like ORDA?

 

[D.B. Cooper]

How much do these things cost?

I think a Pisten Bully 600 with winch is about $350k. But it comes with drink holders and that "new cat" smell.

 

[Harvey]

Someone help me with this, is 4300 hours a lot of use for one of these?

I just looked at some used ones (all brands) from 20-50k, none of them had more than 3000 hours.

 

[Brownski]

I can think of two guys off the top of my head that will probably bid. Hopefully they go for cheap no matter who buys them