ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

LMAO!!

I doubt it simply because I already have a barn full of my already needed "stuff" to maintain my property, all gas. I do need a new leaf blower (don't use it for leaves, rather blowing off my deck) and I will def be looking at a battery powered one. Does that count?
Yes - i am quite happy with my Worx leaf blower. I will take a pic and post it. The only thing with any of these electric systems, you need to buy their battery (thing the old 19.2 Sears drills, which is what I still use today), so that is a cost.

I am shocked at how powerful it is.
 
Awesome.
I really like my electric leaf blower. I have an electric hedge trimmer that is fine. Way less noise.
Same with e-weedwackers. Job is nasty enough without having to screw around with getting it started, smoke and added vibrations. An added benefit is when the battery dies it’s time to quit.
 
My wife does not like the look of solar panels and the front of our house faces south. I looked at the Tesla solar shingles and the numbers were insane for using the shingles - like $40k-50k, not including the battery. They do look awesome.
 
Thanks, T. my notes above reflect a two powerwall design. For panels, it was like 3 days backup with an air conditioner, and solar roof like 1.5 days.

I 100% agree with the point of needing a system to grow into. My issue is that if I get the Rivian, my electric demand could go from 11250 kw/h to like 15,000 kw/h based upon the range of the vehicle and assumption of 12,000 miles driving. As you can see I am stoked about the product, but I am starting to get frustrated that it is supposed to get this close to production and they are not releasing any significant details (they haven't even released EPA ranges). Still support the company, but questioning if I should get it now.

Still electric is about half the price of gas, but then an 80% system would only cover like 50-60; and 54 % would only cover like 33% . . . . So I have some thinking to do. Texas was a bit of a commercial for independence, so there's that. On the other hand, I live in area where electric gets up quickly when it goes out because I am very close to a major (electric) train hub. Some places on LI still have diesel trains.

There is a relatively new rebate in NY that brings the price of a powerwall down to 6,250, which I think is like 1,000 more than a generator.

The federal Green Act, if passed, will add a new federal 30% rebate for storage (right now fed rebate is only for solar systems). That will be interesting, because at that point, a battery 'generator' will be less than a gas or natural gas one of comprable juice.

FWIW, it looks like Tesla may have dropped solar prices in October 2020.
Tesla roof I kicked out last summer when I put a new roof on. You didn't read my post. I appreciate the suggestions,a little listening may help.
What do you want solar to do for you? That really is going to dictate what you need.
Then you build the system.
Tesla is not ready for roofs. If you gave them money today it would be a couple years before you hear anything.
 
Tesla roof I kicked out last summer when I put a new roof on. You didn't read my post. I appreciate the suggestions,a little listening may help.
What do you want solar to do for you? That really is going to dictate what you need.
Then you build the system.
Tesla is not ready for roofs. If you gave them money today it would be a couple years before you hear anything.
Sorry TJ - apologize for not reading well or closely. Listening is always the best place to start, and I didn't do it well.

In my area, Tesla roof wait time is 2-8 months (including permitting time). I am little torn on what I want it for. Primary motivator was energy independence, but then I saw they made roofs, I figured I could take care of not needing another roof while I own this house with benefit. The production numbers were low enough on the roof that I am not even sure what to do, or if I should just wait another year. Doing nothing in the short term may be the best choice for me.
 
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