ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

I would like to see what could be done with more radical hybrid designs or a straight gas/electric drivetrain. I feel like we’re trying to jump ahead five steps going all the way to plug-in EVs
 
Brownski said:
I would like to see what could be done with more radical hybrid designs or a straight gas/electric drivetrain. I feel like we’re trying to jump ahead five steps going all the way to plug-in EVs
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I think Toyota and Honda agree with you. I don't know all the details but I think that is what the RAV4 Prime hybrid is trying to get at. I remember looking at the straight RAV4 hybrid and being impressed. Highlander uses same tech. Maybe Marznc has one if I remember correctly?
 
When used to fish Ontario trollin for salmon the big boats would go 2 mph for hours after runnin miles with diesels and big engines to find the fish. Thought a hybrid e-motor would be ideal, due to stealth and other advantages, then saw Honda had patented an e-transmission thingy as the trollin boats already have good batteries. Have yet to see em on the big O but I golf instead now, so there’s that.
 
My understanding is that there are too many parts to mesh the systems and they become unnecessarily over complicated. The hybrid designs aren’t even on the drawing board of major part manufacturers anymore. Car companies are looking passed these in favor of electric because of their simplicity. The upcoming Lordstown truck is built with the fewest parts of any vehicle in history.
 
I always thought the diesel electric hybrid systems made the most sense, especially if they ran on veggie oil. VW’s XL1 gets 300 miles on a gallon of fuel. If they can’t radically improve mpgs, to match the fast paced improvements of batteries, the ICE will be doomed way sooner than later.
 
DomB said:
I think Toyota and Honda agree with you. I don't know all the details but I think that is what the RAV4 Prime hybrid is trying to get at. I remember looking at the straight RAV4 hybrid and being impressed. Highlander uses same tech. Maybe Marznc has one if I remember correctly?
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Yep, I drove to NY last fall to pick up a RAV4 Prime PHEV. Have enjoyed it.

Now that it's warming up, a full charge is showing 42+ miles EV range. Was usually 38 miles when the temp at night was in the 30s.

When driving up mountain passes in VA/WV in the last couple months, I played with the Sport mode under HV. Makes it very easy to climb without having to add pressure to the accelerator. Clearly different than Eco or Normal mode. The Prime has two electric motors, with a separate one for the rear axle. Haven't really used the AWD yet.
 
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