ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

[Campgottagopee]

Again, speaking for myself, I'll take my chances with gas cans vs anything else. I'm just using this as an example of why we aren't ready to go 100% EV's. Christ, they can't even get the grid back up for peoples homes. At least in case of an emergency your ICE will fire up and go.

 

[Ripitz]

EVs can be independent from the grid and also be a source of reliable power. They are silent too. After a beautiful and epic snow event, when there is a loss of power, I find it super annoying to listen to everyone’s ICE generator running so they can watch TV or keep their refrigerator running.

 

[x10003q]

Where would you be going since most roads are closed? You can’t get gas. I’d love to have one. You can warm yourself without risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. You can use it as a power source for your household. You can charge with a battery wall or simple solar setup. And if fossil fuels are the answer why is the biggest producer outside of Alaska totally F’d?

Texas has plenty of fuel.
They are where they are because those in power did not want to follow Federal rules about power supply stability and reliability. Texas unhoooked their grid from the rest of the US so they do not have enough backup support. They failed to require winterization of their generators so many of their gas, coal , and nuclear plants have failed. They did not require heaters on their turbine wind generators, so some of the turbines are off also.

The people who made these choices are morons in the pockets of the electric generator companies.

 

[Ripitz]

Texas has plenty of fuel.
They are where they are because those in power did not want to follow Federal rules about power supply stability and reliability. Texas unhoooked their grid from the rest of the US so they do not have enough backup support. They failed to require winterization of their generators so many of their gas, coal , and nuclear plants have failed. They did not require heaters on their turbine wind generators, so some of the turbines are off also.

The people who made these choices are morons in the pockets of the electric generator companies.

Sounds to me like even more reason to be independent and self-reliant with a solar and battery storage system

 

[x10003q]

EVs can be independent from the grid and also be a source of reliable power.
They are silent too.

It is almost impossible for EVs to be independent of the grid unless you own a huge solar array with huge battery support.

After a beautiful and epic snow event, when there is a loss of power, I find it super annoying to listen to everyone’s ICE generator running so they can watch TV or keep their refrigerator running.

For the $500 cost of a 4000 watt ice generator and $20 of gasoline families can survive for a week or longer without power. One Tesla power wall cost $8000. I think you will have to live with ice generators for a while longer.

 

[x10003q]

Sounds to me like even more reason to be independent and self-reliant with a solar and battery storage system

Texas is incredibly stupid about solar, also.
As for self reliance, solar costs a small fortune to install and if you want battery backup you need to spend even more money for batteries (tesla power wall unit $8000) in your home. Most people with solar use the grid as a battery, so when the grid is down so is your house.

 

[Tjf1967]

Texas has plenty of fuel.
They are where they are because those in power did not want to follow Federal rules about power supply stability and reliability. Texas unhoooked their grid from the rest of the US so they do not have enough backup support. They failed to require winterization of their generators so many of their gas, coal , and nuclear plants have failed. They did not require heaters on their turbine wind generators, so some of the turbines are off also.

The people who made these choices are morons in the pockets of the electric generator companies.

Texas is going to be fine. Was NJ morons after Hurricane Sandy? Shit happens

 

[Brownski]

Texas is going to be fine. Was NJ morons after Hurricane Sandy? Shit happens

Good point. We were a complete mess around here

 

[Campgottagopee]

Good point. We were a complete mess around here

Right

I guess at the end of the day all we can do is be as prepared as we think we can be. I remember the big ice storm up north, was it 98?? Dunno, but luckily for my sis and b-i-l they heated with wood, had beefers, and a generator. I think they were without power for over a week?? I still have a T-shirt from by b-i-l's construction company that says, "real men don't take sponge baths" --- lol

 

[Tjf1967]

Right

I guess at the end of the day all we can do is be as prepared as we think we can be. I remember the big ice storm up north, was it 98?? Dunno, but luckily for my sis and b-i-l they heated with wood, had beefers, and a generator. I think they were without power for over a week?? I still have a T-shirt from by b-i-l's construction company that says, "real men don't take sponge baths" --- lol

I think my dad still has OT money in the bank from that one.