ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

DISCLAIMER: I own no individual stocks and it is unlikely I ever will.
So you are going to drive their truck but not buy their stock?
They are going for it.
 
There are two parts to this, but most likely, no I won't buy the stock. If you told me I had to buy one stock, it might be Rivian, but I think that stock picking is for me, a fool's errand. If Rivian IPOs, I will indirectly own it through index investing, described below.

It is not because I don't believe in Rivian. It is because I don't believe in my ability to pick stock/issuer winners from losers. In fact, the data suggests professional stock pickers cannot do that over time. All of my investing is for retirement, with a smaller amount for kids' educations. I also like to keep my life simple where I can, and passive index investing does that. I basically get market return year in and out, minus about 0.05 - 0.10 % (I haven't done the math because fees are a bit different for each index fund). Google Bogleheads when you have down time on a rainy day and nothing else to do.




1). I have a so-called Boglehead investing philosophy. I have decided how much I want to try to invest each year, how much should go to stock mutual funds, and how much to bond mutual funds. This means I don't end up buying any stock, just mutual funds that take my money and buy stocks (you could do ETFs) that replicate the entire market.

As to stocks, I made two decisions: one all U.S. index fund, and one all-world (ex US) index fund. The funds try to replicate, more or less, total equity growth of public companies. It gets a little more complicated because I have been in the working world for almost 20 years, and issues like IRAs, 401ks, alphabet soup bla bla come into play, but it is fairly simple. I just make a few choices in life, work, save when I can, and invest to my targets if I can.

Even with an asset allocation, I spend about 30 minutes to two hours per a year thinking about investments. Most of that is gathering accounts and balances and seeing how far the percentages (domestic vs international vs bonds) are off my target. Then I set my investing in the future to help offset that, or makes sells and buys in accounts that do not have tax consequences (e.g. selling stock in a 401k and then buying a bond in the 401k if my bonds are too low vs the others). You can find neat rebalancing sheets on line, including I think at the bogleheads wiki page.

2) Even if I wanted to, I actually have some restrictions on trading for work that would exclude Rivian. I started working at a great place a few years ago with this restriction, but it does not impact my investments because they are all mutual funds. I do have ability to request an exception, but it doesn't really jive with my philosphy.

I admit my admiration for Rivian could lead me to seek an exception for some small amount that I would personally view as a 'fun' pick, but it really goes against my personal investment philosophy.
 
My understanding is that the market and a lot of funds, because of their diversity, are dependent on fossil fueled industries. I’d like to learn more about developing an “eco-friendly” investment portfolio. Until then I’ll keep my money under my mattress and invest in things that I can touch and feel.
 
My understanding is that the market and a lot of funds, because of their diversity, are dependent on fossil fueled industries. I’d like to learn more about developing an “eco-friendly” investment portfolio. Until then I’ll keep my money under my mattress and invest in things that I can touch and feel.
Unfortunately by definition market/index funds are dependent on fossil fuels - they just buy the whole pie, and the pie right now is fossil fuel driven. They follow the economy, they don't lead.

Eco funds are a tricky issue to me and one I am pretty uninformed on. My basic concern would be reading the fund documents close enough to understand if they are truly green. A lot of fund managers want to jump on the green investing bandwagon, but you have to be sure the manager is actually being green. For example, would a random Chrysler or Volkswagen bond in a manager's portfolio be green? VW is now committing to green, but they were the masters of the whole diesel gate scandal. It gets dicey.

The good news is that I think in the next few years, the SEC, the regulatory market watchdog, will focus on so-called green-washing, which in the long term should help investors like you that want to put your investment money behind your beliefs. Basically, they will help punish bad actors, so the good ones will thrive.
 
The good news is that I think in the next few years, the SEC, the regulatory market watchdog, will focus on so-called green-washing, which in the long term should help investors like you that want to put your investment money behind your beliefs. Basically, they will help punish bad actors, so the good ones will thrive.
DomB, If ya’ve been keeping score, how’d the SEC do with the subprime loans/ credit default swaps debacle?
 
Would hate to have an EV in Texas right now
Where would you be going since most roads are closed? You can’t get gas. I’d love to have one. You can warm yourself without risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. You can use it as a power source for your household. You can charge with a battery wall or simple solar setup. And if fossil fuels are the answer why is the biggest producer outside of Alaska totally F’d?
 
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