Greek Peak Conditions

Campgottagopee said:
How do you know this? I'm curious. The ones at Smuggs were installed in 1963 and are working fine.
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Yeah, there are so many variables. It’s hard to really pin down. Halls seem to hold up better than Riblets in general but there’s got to be a maintenance component. Maybe new motors and controls and a general overhaul - done right- would do the trick for 4 & 5.
 
I read an article a number of years ago by Chris Diamond that mentioned the lifespan of 15-25 years, which jumped out at me, as many lifts are well beyond that age. When lifts get to be about 25 to 30 years old, the cost of replacing all the fatiguing components, including the chairs and grips, could be 85 to 90 percent of the cost of installing a modern lift.
 
You’re not wrong. It’s just that each installation is different. There’s no hard expiration date. Some can last a very long time. I saw a story on the TV about a dog setting a new age record yesterday. He looked damn good for 30 years too. It blew my mind.
 
trackbiker said:
Agreed. I first skied Greek Peak in the late 70's and until the new owners took over about the only change I saw since then was removing the T-bar and replacing it with a used double lift. All the money was going across the road to the condos and water park. There's been more improvements to the ski area since the new owners took over than in the 40 years before that.
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Emily said:
The pay-as-you-go approach is fine for many businesses, but Greek Peak is looking at a few million dollars for a basic lift. I'm not sure that the lifts have many more years of life left in them, as the lifespan of a chairlift is 15-25 years.
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And if the money fairy would just drop about 50 millions, it would be so nice. Pay as you go is the way forward for this place.
 
DHA said:
And if the money fairy would just drop about 50 millions, it would be so nice. Pay as you go is the way forward for this place.
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Agree. We've all heard the old adage, "How do you end up with a million dollars in the ski industry?"
Start with $50 million.
 
Emily said:
I read an article a number of years ago by Chris Diamond that mentioned the lifespan of 15-25 years, which jumped out at me, as many lifts are well beyond that age. When lifts get to be about 25 to 30 years old, the cost of replacing all the fatiguing components, including the chairs and grips, could be 85 to 90 percent of the cost of installing a modern lift.
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I find the 85 to 90 percent hard to believe. I've been selling production equipment for over 30 years. If machines are maintained on a regular basis they can last a long time. Granted some have better bones than others like the Hall lifts that are running after 60 years.
We also rebuild and upgrade older machines to today's standards at a much lower cost than new. If the towers on chair 5 are in good shape a new drive terminal and controls would likely put it good shape for years. Spare parts for Hall lifts are still readily available. I agree those chairs are uncomfortable so they could also be replaced.
Chair 2 is a Frankenlift that just needs to be replaced. It's likely hard to find spare parts for that lift.
 
trackbiker said:
I find the 85 to 90 percent hard to believe. I've been selling production equipment for over 30 years. If machines are maintained on a regular basis they can last a long time. Granted some have better bones than others like the Hall lifts that are running after 60 years.
We also rebuild and upgrade older machines to today's standards at a much lower cost than new. If the towers on chair 5 are in good shape a new drive terminal and controls would likely put it good shape for years. Spare parts for Hall lifts are still readily available. I agree those chairs are uncomfortable so they could also be replaced.
Chair 2 is a Frankenlift that just needs to be replaced. It's likely hard to find spare parts for that lift.
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This makes sense to me. When it comes down to it, it doesn't seem that a chairlift is an overly complicated piece of equipment.
 
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