Windham Mountain Going Private?

[Harvey]

Where are you in the global distribution of income?

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wid.world

This looks like a cool tool. I couldn't figure our how to find out where $75k ranks worldwide.

What is the cutoff for rich (in your opinion)?

 

[MC2]

This looks like a cool tool. I couldn't figure our how to find out where $75k ranks worldwide.

What is the cutoff for rich (in your opinion)?

Haha, that’s the wrong question, particularly if you are going by income. I think wealth is the far greater tool for determining who is “rich”.

If you insist on using income, I think that if you derive most/all of that income from something other than a job (company ownership without actual duties, rental properties where you pay property managers to do all the work, dividends, interest, etc.) that’s some rich person shit.

Listen, I’m not deriding any individual people. I have met rich assholes & poor assholes. I have met assholes that have been rich & poor & rich again.

Also, I’d like to be rich! And I’m kind of an asshole sometimes. So, chances are, I might be a rich asshole someday.

I’m just saying that there are lots of examples of places that used to be cool, were discovered by rich people & the things that made the place cool were pushed aside in favor of shitty rich people stuff. You *must* have heard of this, right?

 

[Low Angle Life]

I’m just saying that there are lots of examples of places that used to be cool, were discovered by rich people & the things that made the place cool were pushed aside in favor of shitty rich people stuff. You *must* have heard of this, right?

Discovery of an already inhabited place is colonialism full stop. Western history is chock full of examples of of assholes discovering a place and fucking it out for everyone else.

 

[Benny Profane]

You can't go to Europe every weekend though. But if it remains open to the public I can see families doing a week at Windham if it's truly a luxury experience verse getting on an airplane

Well, first, these people don't ski every weekend. I think the latest average day count is, at most, a dozen for the general ski public, and these aren't serious skiers. How could you be if Windham is your home mountain? My guess is the well heeled Windham customer skis there a few weekends along the few week long trips to Colorado or Utah, or, yeah, Europe. As noted, the homeowners are there for year round use, too. Imagine how boring somebody would be if they actually used a week of their busy time to just ski Windham. How can that ever be a "luxury experience"?

 

[Harvey]

Haha, that’s the wrong question, particularly if you are going by income. I think wealth is the far greater tool for determining who is “rich”.

OK then what is the wealth (is that net worth?) cutoff between rich and not rich?

I’m just saying that there are lots of examples of places that used to be cool, were discovered by rich people & the things that made the place cool were pushed aside in favor of shitty rich people stuff. You *must* have heard of this, right?

In travel it's called "over tourism."

There are plenty of places that get "ruined" by all kinds of people. I can't prove it, but I don't think Peekamoose Blue Hole was ruined by the rich, at least not exclusively.

 

[SayvilleSteve]

I really hope it starts to snow soon.

 

[Milo Maltbie]

How do the rich ruin everything nice? By making it crowded? By driving up the price? Just by being there? Or is it something else?

Anytime anyone creates anything good the financial economy swoops in and monetizes it, eventually destroying whatever the original value was by converting it to income for wealthy people. The rest of us are left with the crumbs. The process continues until t reaches the critical point where a populist uprising redistributes the wealth that was actually created by working people in the first place. Rich people go into hiding somewhere.

The good news (for us) is that the crumbs are still good enough that we're well fed and mostly well housed, but we still have a choice. We could pick up the pitchforks (or AR15s) and storm the Capitol, or go skiing and then have a beer and bratwurst at Beck's. The choice is yours.

The most unusual thing about this moment in history is not that rich people are amassing vast wealth, it's that the populist uprising is supporting the libertarian agenda of the rich assholes.

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[Milo Maltbie]

Generalizing all rich people as assholes isn’t fair...

That's a fair point.

OTOH I've always aspired to be a rich asshole. The Woman Of My Dreams assures me I'm halfway there.

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[MC2]

OK then what is the wealth (is that net worth?) cutoff between rich and not rich?

Why is this so important to you? To make a dividing line? What do you gain from it?

Also, there are levels of rich. People who own car elevators for their houses or smaller yachts inside of bigger yachts are definitely a different kind of rich than a retired police officer who has a $125,000 pension, a paid-off $750,000 house on Long Island, and $900,000 in retirement savings (but yes, both are rich, imo).

 

[Low Angle Life]

The most unusual thing about this moment in history is not that rich people are amassing vast wealth, it's that the populist uprising is supporting the libertarian agenda of the rich assholes.

mm

What is fairly typical about the current moment however is the wealthy's ability to divide and conquer the masses. We've got failed protest movements by the left and right for the past decade and the only thing that its accomplished is widening the schism and advancing further wealth consolidation. The petty bourgeois tend to support rich assholes or at least their adgendas from a historical perspective.