Whiteface expansion vs The Recent Court decision re: tree cutting

[Peter Minde]

More nonsense about creating issues where no issues exist. Mt Van Ho is also classified as intensive use.

"The Mount Van Hoevenberg Olympic Sports Complex is located in the Town of North Elba, Essex County, approximately seven miles southeast of the Village of Lake Placid. The area is classified as Intensive Use pursuant to the Adirondack Park State Land Master Plan."

Mount Van Hoevenberg Olympic Sports Complex - Unit Management Plan

dec.ny.gov

I do not agree with how ORDA spends money at Mt Van Ho, but let's not pretend that this is a Forever Wild area. It is a 3.08 acre Intensive Use area that they are clearing. I guess clowns like William Janeway, executive director of the Adirondack Council, and Peter Bauer, executive director of Protect the Adirondacks have to find something to justify the existence of their environmental clubs. They continue to forget that people live, work, and play in the Adk Park. I guarantee that expanding Mt Van Ho by 3.08 acres will do nothing to disrupt the rest of the 6 million acre Adk Park.

The new World Cup Trails and the lodge are on land owned by the town of North Elba,, that's why they had the ability to cut trees there. The legacy trails are mainly on ADK park land, with an easement on land owned by South Meadow lodge.

I'd love to see a constitutional amendment to Article XIV for van Ho. Proposed amendment already got shot down once as it was attached to an unpopular bill.

 

[tirolski]

No, you are incorrect. The swapped land belonged to the Town of Johnsburg, not NYS, so no Forest Preserve land involved.

That’s why the question “?” mark at the end. Thanks for the clarification Dr. Cork.
Didn’t a swap occur from Front Street to Town previously?

There was discussion of Highmount ski & Belle at ORDA’s last board meeting regarding "swaps"...related to growth at Belle. Ya can hear it here...

NYS ORDA Board of Directors Meeting December 13, 2023 1:00pm

www.youtube.com

 

[tirolski]

The new World Cup Trails and the lodge are on land owned by the town of North Elba,, that's why they had the ability to cut trees there. The legacy trails are mainly on ADK park land, with an easement on land owned by South Meadow lodge.

I'd love to see a constitutional amendment to Article XIV for van Ho. Proposed amendment already got shot down once as it was attached to an unpopular bill.

The comments are interesting in this one.

Mount Van Hoevenberg sees 1st passage of Article 14 constitutional amendment

In June, a draft Article 14 Constitutional Amendment was passed by both the State Senate and State Assembly to clean up violations at the Mount Van Hoevenberg Winter Sports Complex outside of Lake Placid. This draft amends the Forever Wild clause of the NYS Constitution. This amendment will...

www.adirondackalmanack.com

 

[Peter Minde]

The comments are interesting in this one.

Mount Van Hoevenberg sees 1st passage of Article 14 constitutional amendment

In June, a draft Article 14 Constitutional Amendment was passed by both the State Senate and State Assembly to clean up violations at the Mount Van Hoevenberg Winter Sports Complex outside of Lake Placid. This draft amends the Forever Wild clause of the NYS Constitution. This amendment will...

www.adirondackalmanack.com

Thanks for sharing this, @tirolski .my comment was based on a bill that got shot down 2-3 years ago. ORDA and NY legislators kicked the can down the road on this one for a lot of years.

 

[Cork]

That’s why the question “?” mark at the end. Thanks for the clarification Dr. Cork.
Didn’t a swap occur from Front Street to Town previously?

The swap was between FSMP and TOJ, ORDA has no bearing other than that ORDA maintains the trails; no ownership.

 

[Cork]

Here's an interesting piece...

Olympic authority to pay $1.2M to host biking World Cup

The deal with World Cup organizers will bring about 130 cross-country biking competitors to the region for three days in the fall of 2024, 2025 and 2026

www.adirondackexplorer.org

 

[tirolski]

Thanks for sharing this, @tirolski .my comment was based on a bill that got shot down 2-3 years ago. ORDA and NY legislators kicked the can down the road on this one for a lot of years.

It’s a lot like herding cats.

 

[tirolski]

Here's an interesting piece...

Olympic authority to pay $1.2M to host biking World Cup

The deal with World Cup organizers will bring about 130 cross-country biking competitors to the region for three days in the fall of 2024, 2025 and 2026

www.adirondackexplorer.org

Yup. Discussed at the last coupla meetings..had an “executive” meetin to getter done.
Somebody said it’d be better to have it after the one in Tremblant,... the show must go on.
Maybe ORDA will get something outta the deal.