Where are you skiing this week?

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just thinking outside the box here. what if we piled all the state trash out in western ny and created our own mountain range. hell we could even take jerseys trash to speed up the process. every time i see these crazy snow events in western ny i think why cant those lakes be a 100 miles wider. the ADK's would be rocking

 

[Harvey]

And in 1935 when it started to become downhill oriented, before snowmaking, natural snowfall was a factor that drove growth. I think that with 100 inches more NY would be more bustling.

I'll grant that the Adk was a watershed, unlike VT, which was also a driving force in the protection of land.

 

[Milo Maltbie]

just thinking outside the box here...every time i see these crazy snow events in western ny i think why cant those lakes be a 100 miles wider. the ADK's would be rocking

Years ago I proposed a pumped storage electric generation project for the Moose River. If you had a series of dams and pumped water upstream every night you would have carbon free electricity during the day, and a large pondage area to dump snow on Gore and Whiteface. Win-win. People just too small minded and timid to consider it now, but your grandfather would have built it.

mm

 

[tirolski]

just thinking outside the box here. what if we piled all the state trash out in western ny and created our own mountain range. hell we could even take jerseys trash to speed up the process. every time i see these crazy snow events in western ny

Not all trash but “clean" construction debris as landfills are filling up.
Love Canal was in the Lake Erie snow belt.
Ya’d most likely get cheap employee housing nearby too.

 

[Ripitz]

It's got over 2k.......................................... in horizontal!

Ha! This reminds me of a rock climb in the Shawangunks. Although the cliffs aren’t much over 200-300ft, they stretch for miles. In 1987, Dave Rosenstein and Ken Nichols started on one end of the Trapps and climbed horizontally to the other. Their girdle traverse was 5.9, 67 pitches and over 9,000ft long. They named it the ‘Great Wall of China’ and it was the longest climb in the world for over a decade.

 

[raisingarizona]

Ha! This reminds me of a rock climb in the Shawangunks. Although the cliffs aren’t much over 200-300ft, they stretch for miles. In 1987, Dave Rosenstein and Ken Nichols started on one end of the Trapps and climbed horizontally to the other. Their girdle traverse was 5.9, 67 pitches and over 9,000ft long. They named it the ‘Great Wall of China’ and it was the longest climb in the world for over a decade.

I had to google that one and read more. I couldn't find anything about how long it took them though. Do you know Ripitz?

 

[Ripitz]

It’s in Dick Williams guidebook. It says it took them five days. I think they mostly slept on the GT (Giant Traverse) ledge but I think they also brought a portaledge. I’m not surprised you couldn’t find anything on it, the old school dirtbags never wrote anything down or promoted themselves.

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Trango Tower? Mt. Thor? Those things aren't even near to the longest climbs in the world. For that you need to go sideways.

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[tirolski]

Do you know Ripitz?

Never met him but seems like a good guy.

See Eddie2170 posting here.

Anyone ever climb "the great wall of china" in the gunks? The complete traverse of the trapps?

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5 daze isit.

 

[Ripitz]

OK, so I guess they slept on the ground, I had heard differently. It would be nearly impossible to repeat this these days with the amount of traffic up there. It would be like crossing a major highway during rush hour. The last time I was up there I saw someone take a 30ft ground fall and tumble down the talus with his belayer. After that, someone, from the same party, traversed over from a neighboring route and clipped into my gear. I explained from above that if they didn’t unclip and reverse course I would rap down and punch them in the face. I quit climbing up there after that.

 

[chumpomatic]

OK, so I guess they slept on the ground, I had heard differently. It would be nearly impossible to repeat this these days with the amount of traffic up there. It would be like crossing a major highway during rush hour. The last time I was up there I saw someone take a 30ft ground fall and tumble down the talus with his belayer. After that, someone, from the same party, traversed over from a neighboring route and clipped into my gear. I explained from above that if they didn’t unclip and reverse course I would rap down and punch them in the face. I quit climbing up there after that.

I used to climb in the Gunks a lot but even 10 years ago I stopped climbing on weekends. It's amazing (and dangerous) the crazy that goes on there.