This is where we are.

[Harvey]

We unfortunately live in an age where it's impossible to separate the personal from the political. If I was in the market for new skis, what should be an utterly apolitical act, there's just no way to get around the fact that I have significantly less money and the product is significantly more expensive than a week ago - all because of political actions.

Hopefully it won't be like this for ever but sadly I think it will, because of social media and siloed personal media bubbles

I admire and applaud @Harvey's desire to keep this forum apolitical but I think it's ultimately a question of where you draw the line on what is or isn't "political". What other fora sometimes try to do is segregate the overtly political stuff into it's own sub-forum. Maybe that could work?

Anyway, I'd love to see the Market Philosophy thread unlocked. I've been enjoying it for a long time and I apologize for my part in making it explicitly political.

Re-read your comment above, IMO it's political. I do appreciate the apology (sincere).

I want the damn market thread open too.

Who knows what SORR is in investing? It's Sequence of Returns Risk. It means your odds of running out of money in retirement go way up if the market drops dramatically right after you retire. Sound like anyone we know? I'd love to talk about the signals the bond market was sending, but we can't.

Of course the line is fuzzy between what is politics and what isn't. That because what happens politically affects our lives, potentially in profound ways. Still we are all bright people. We know when, what we are saying is really a thinly veiled (Biden or Trump, pick one) sucks, is a criminal, ruined America. We COULD talk about the market without insulting the left or right, but we won't.

Think about this: half the country voted for the other guy. If 50% vote for a candidate, it's not fringe, it's mainstream, by definition. We all need to stop treating the other side like they are nuts.

I've learned a lot building this house. I have the utmost respect for a crew that probably doesn't agree with me on too much politically. It doesn't matter, these are good, hardworking men. We don't talk politics. Try to understand where people are coming from, versus categorizing them automatically.

Separating politics into another forum doesn't work. Think about Brownski's guy. He doesn't post here anymore because he doesn't feel welcome. That's from stuff that was posted five years ago. Here's my partisan comment... the lefties here are more vocal here than righties, and it makes the righties feel unwelcome. Think about a guy like Scrundy, he doesn't bring this shit up on his own. I don't want the righties leaving because the lefties can't keep it to themselves. IMO the righties have done a good job keeping politics out of it. Three minutes after I posted this, we get this. WTAF.

Do you want a ski forum with no locals? We run on cubicle speculation? Or do you want midweek beta from the hill? We need everyone here.

Milo how do you think this thread won't get political? Locked.