The Definitive Solution to the Upstate NY Question

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You got me with your watershed logic, I'll quit my trolling, although Utica as the Hudson Valley..? What do I know, I'm not even a "Downstater".
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That is an awesome map but I’m pretty sure when people talk about “the Hudson Valley” as a region, they’re referring to the portion between Albany and the city- probably from the the MA and CT borders to whatever we would consider the western edge of the Catskills region. As an aside. I think we may need a cool maps thread too
 
I just remembered this was in my photo history. It’s from the Capital District Welcome Center on the Thruway. Not definitive unfortunately

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Lol
Brio’s isn’t bad tho
My Belleayre area restaurant guide:
Casual American comfort food/BBQ: J Rocco's on 28 just past Phoenicia
More upscale dining: Binnekill Tavern in Margaretville, Peekamoose if not available
Pizza: Oakley's is a go-to spot, Brio's and Goatee White's in Phoenicia and Fleischmanns respectively are decent local options as well

That'll be $80 cash or check only
 
My Belleayre area restaurant guide:

My Belleayre area restaurant guide:

WhyTF isn't the Peekamoose open at 4pm instead of 5?
 
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