Peter Minde
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Oh yeah, Deidra Walsh doing the interview with sunglasses. Incredibly bad look, the faceless representative of faceless Vail.
Park City Ski Patrol Strike
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Oh yeah, Deidra Walsh doing the interview with sunglasses. Incredibly bad look, the faceless representative of faceless Vail.
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Campgottagopee
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I have a hard time understanding situations like this. They knew the pay when they signed up for the job. It seems crazy to me, if you don't like the pay don't take the job.
That said, Fail should pay the 2bucks. How silly.
That said, Fail should pay the 2bucks. How silly.
MarzNC
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Per usual with union negotiations, it's more complicated than just the hourly wage. I vaguely remember seeing that the negotiations have been going on for over six months meaning starting before the last contract expired in April 2024. There are more details in this SLC Tribune article.
December 30, 2024
www.sltrib.com
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What the union is seeking
Since before the union’s previous contract expired in April, the union has asked that ski patrol members receive a starting pay of $23 an hour rather than $21 — with increased compensation for more experienced safety workers and patrollers, based on their skills. The union also is requesting a benefits package option to take a health care stipend for the months patrollers and safety workers are employed, so they do not need to switch providers every six months.
According to Graves [a business manager for the union], the union wants the new minimum bump to be applied to everyone’s wages.
She said the old contract left people with 15 or 20 years of experience making close to what people in their fifth or sixth year make.
“You kind of hit a plateau in wages,” she said, “and so we would really like to see the company incentivize people who are more tenured on patrol.”
The proposed contract would mean that people with advanced skills — team members like emergency medical technicians and avalanche danger mitigators — would see larger increases than they now do for their certifications and capabilities.
She said the union also is seeking cost-of-living adjustments.
“One of the huge things in this negotiations process is seeing our wages rise in line with inflation, or at least close to in line with inflation,” she said. “We are also asking for some flex time and holiday pay.”
. . .
At nearby Deer Valley Resort, the union said, starting pay for ski patrol members is $23.50 an hour. At Powder Mountain, officials said it’s $26 and, at Wasatch Peaks, it’s $24.
Huey [VR spokesperson], at Vail Resorts, said the average entry-level wage is $22.40 an hour. She said average patrol wages at Park City are $25 an hour, and that experienced patrollers make an average of 35% more than that.
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December 30, 2024
Vail Resorts says it will rejoin talks with striking Park City Mountain patrol and safety worker union
Vail Resorts, the company that owns Park City Mountain Resort, says it will return to talks with the resort's striking ski patrol employees. On Monday, the resort closed more than 80% of its terrain, and stopped selling daily lift tickets.
What the union is seeking
Since before the union’s previous contract expired in April, the union has asked that ski patrol members receive a starting pay of $23 an hour rather than $21 — with increased compensation for more experienced safety workers and patrollers, based on their skills. The union also is requesting a benefits package option to take a health care stipend for the months patrollers and safety workers are employed, so they do not need to switch providers every six months.
According to Graves [a business manager for the union], the union wants the new minimum bump to be applied to everyone’s wages.
She said the old contract left people with 15 or 20 years of experience making close to what people in their fifth or sixth year make.
“You kind of hit a plateau in wages,” she said, “and so we would really like to see the company incentivize people who are more tenured on patrol.”
The proposed contract would mean that people with advanced skills — team members like emergency medical technicians and avalanche danger mitigators — would see larger increases than they now do for their certifications and capabilities.
She said the union also is seeking cost-of-living adjustments.
“One of the huge things in this negotiations process is seeing our wages rise in line with inflation, or at least close to in line with inflation,” she said. “We are also asking for some flex time and holiday pay.”
. . .
At nearby Deer Valley Resort, the union said, starting pay for ski patrol members is $23.50 an hour. At Powder Mountain, officials said it’s $26 and, at Wasatch Peaks, it’s $24.
Huey [VR spokesperson], at Vail Resorts, said the average entry-level wage is $22.40 an hour. She said average patrol wages at Park City are $25 an hour, and that experienced patrollers make an average of 35% more than that.
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MarzNC
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While wages have increased since 2021 for Park City patrollers, the contract that was approved in January 2021 is the one that expired in April 2024.
January 17, 2021 (USA)
www.saminfo.com
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The Park City Professional Ski Patrol Association (PCPSPA) voted to approve a new contract with Vail Resorts (VR) on Friday [Jan. 15, 2021]. The union agreed to a base wage of $15 an hour, with $1 an hour incentive for patrollers who work some shifts out of both Park City Mountain Resort base areas, Canyons Village and Park City. The hourly base wage for first year patrollers had been $13.25.
The new $16 an hour starting rate is effective retroactively from the start of this season, and patrollers will be eligible for the $2 an hour bonus VR rolled out company-wide earlier this month. The contract runs through April 2024.
The union does not plan to release the vote breakdown. The terms were hammered out in a 15-hour bargaining session, the 50th such session in more than a year-and-a-half of negotiations between PCPSPA and VR. The union had been arguing for a $17 starting hourly wage while VR held at $15.
Under the new contract, average pay for all patrollers is now more than $19 an hour, according to union business manager Patrick Murphy. Additionally, the contract assures wage parity with VR’s Colorado resorts: If wages increase in Colorado for whatever reason, they also increase in Park City.
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January 17, 2021 (USA)
Park City Patrol Union Votes Yes on New Contract
SAM Magazine—Park City, Utah, Jan. 17, 2021—The Park City Professional Ski Patrol Association (PCPSPA) voted to approve a new contract with Vail Resorts (V
www.saminfo.com
The Park City Professional Ski Patrol Association (PCPSPA) voted to approve a new contract with Vail Resorts (VR) on Friday [Jan. 15, 2021]. The union agreed to a base wage of $15 an hour, with $1 an hour incentive for patrollers who work some shifts out of both Park City Mountain Resort base areas, Canyons Village and Park City. The hourly base wage for first year patrollers had been $13.25.
The new $16 an hour starting rate is effective retroactively from the start of this season, and patrollers will be eligible for the $2 an hour bonus VR rolled out company-wide earlier this month. The contract runs through April 2024.
The union does not plan to release the vote breakdown. The terms were hammered out in a 15-hour bargaining session, the 50th such session in more than a year-and-a-half of negotiations between PCPSPA and VR. The union had been arguing for a $17 starting hourly wage while VR held at $15.
Under the new contract, average pay for all patrollers is now more than $19 an hour, according to union business manager Patrick Murphy. Additionally, the contract assures wage parity with VR’s Colorado resorts: If wages increase in Colorado for whatever reason, they also increase in Park City.
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MarzNC
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Took a while to find . . . the Park City patrollers' union was formed in 2015. Pretty clear that the acquisition of Park City/Canyons by VR was a factor. The patrollers at VR resorts in Colorado also are members of the same union.
Patrollers and lift mechanics at a few destination resorts in the Rockies have been represented by unions for a while.
March 2024
coloradosun.com
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So far this winter ski patrols at five resorts in the West have announced plans to join unionized patrollers at 10 other resorts and lift mechanics at two ski areas.
In the past couple years, patrollers at Big Sky in Montana, Breckenridge, Loveland and Purgatory have voted to unionize. Lift mechanics at Park City in Utah and Crested Butte Mountain Resort also have unionized in the past two years. All are part of the the 700-member United Professional Ski Patrols of America. Patrollers at Aspen-Snowmass, Crested Butte, Park City, Steamboat, Telluride and Stevens Pass in Washington have been in unions for many years.
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Solitude patrollers were the first for an Alterra resort to unionize.
April 2024
www.sltrib.com
Patrollers and lift mechanics at a few destination resorts in the Rockies have been represented by unions for a while.
March 2024
Keystone ski patrollers announce plans for union vote
Workers at five ski areas in three Western states this winter proposed joining the 700-member United Professional Ski Patrols of America
coloradosun.com
So far this winter ski patrols at five resorts in the West have announced plans to join unionized patrollers at 10 other resorts and lift mechanics at two ski areas.
In the past couple years, patrollers at Big Sky in Montana, Breckenridge, Loveland and Purgatory have voted to unionize. Lift mechanics at Park City in Utah and Crested Butte Mountain Resort also have unionized in the past two years. All are part of the the 700-member United Professional Ski Patrols of America. Patrollers at Aspen-Snowmass, Crested Butte, Park City, Steamboat, Telluride and Stevens Pass in Washington have been in unions for many years.
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Solitude patrollers were the first for an Alterra resort to unionize.
April 2024
Solitude ski patrol makes union vote official
Solitude's ski patrol officially became a union Monday after the move received 70% approval from its membership.
Benny Profane
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You try standing on a corner surrounded by snow covered ground everywhere with the sun shining and no shades.
Peter Minde
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She could make an effort.
Milo Maltbie
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What seems reasonable when you take the job may not sound so good after a few years. Especially when you are a critical part of a valuable business or when you have high level skills that nevertheless don't easily transfer to other jobs. Large employers in small towns dominate the local labor market, and forming a union is one way for workers to keep some of the value they add to the whole business.
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Andy_ROC
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Yup!
A buddy's son worked at Park City before/after Vail took over. He coached skiing and when not coaching he worked in one of the resorts ski shops selling gear and clothing. He was paid commission in the ski shop. He did pretty well because families would come in with absolutely no gear and clothing and spend tens of thousands of dollars. Once Vail took over the commission went away and he got a little above minimum wage taking a large pay cut.
Despite my wife being in a labor union I've mostly found myself being mainly a union critic. However I'm even more anti big corporation that take over everything and crush competition.
I support the ski patrol on this one.
