ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

[DomB]

I've got a 2012 Honda Pilot that has 257,000 miles on it.

I've been reluctant to buy an EV ... For me, it's about the range ... Long drives are pretty common for me (see the mileage numbers above) ... Until they've got the range on an EV to about 500 miles without needing to recharge, I'll probably stay on the sidelines ... unless and until I have no choice!

I see Face in your name, and respect the mileage need. FWIW, abetterroutelanner tells me that from Long Island, 10% over speed limit with 300 lbs of weight, Gore would need one fast charge stop of about 15 minutes to get me there (242 miles) with 30% battery for a 300 mi + battery pack. I know that is not real world . . . .

NYS is building a bunch of fast chargers (1/2 range in about 20 minutes) with the Volkswagen settlement money. It actually looks like most will be built this year (one is going in Lake Placid). Google Evolveny and you can see the open, under construction, and planned locations.

If Rivian makes a 400 range suv available close to launch, I could wait for that (the truck version with 400 mi has already been announced for Jan 2022).

 

[jasonwx]

Jason - are you going to pull the trigger on the Y? If you haven't seen it, you should check out Munro Associates on Youtube. He is an engineer who tears down cars and suggests improvements. He was not a fan of the 3. He said that the Y was the best car Tesla built (and seems to have converted to a Tesla fan). Got his start at one of the big legacy automakers (GM?)

i really like the Y.. we pay cash for cars I'm very anti dept when it comes to cars.. so it's more of a fantasy..
I watch Munro vids..Interesting stuff

 

[Campgottagopee]

The new Tesla has a 0-60 under 2 seconds
Most people will start to grey out at that acceleration.
my buddy’s camero is almost 700 hp at the wheels still can’t beat the Tesla

walk silently and carry a big stick

I know but it's not the same. It's like kissing thru a screen door. I'll take the 700 HP all damn day.

 

[Ripitz]

Electric sleds are next

 

[Campgottagopee]

Its like electric motorcycles...very heavy and silent. nah.
I wouldn't mind a Rivian truck though.

I'm curious but not interested in a Rivian. I need to see how they hold up. I use a truck like a truck.

 

[Campgottagopee]

Electric sleds are next

Not for this cowboy. You can always haul gas in, but a 53 mile extension cord? Nah, shits not happening in my lifetime.

 

[Brownski]

Not for this cowboy. You can always haul gas in, but a 53 mile extension cord? Nah, shits not happening in my lifetime.

You just find a break in the trees and unroll a flexible solar panel. Easy peasy

 

[Ripitz]

It’s gonna suck to be passed all the time without the blue fog

 

[Campgottagopee]

LMAO

 

[Ripitz]

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