Tjf1967
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Those things do last. Ever change the batteries? How many miles?
ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions
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Horse shit is great for the environment & makes plants grow better.
Ya copied yer reply from here.
JD Power Dependability Survey Places Tesla Among Worst-Ranked Car Brands In US
J.D. Power, the automotive industry's longtime monitor of quality, included Tesla Inc (NASDAQ: TSLA) for the first time in its annual U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study. What Happened: Tesla didn't have a good showing in its debut. J.D. Power uses consumer survey data to report the number of...
They did come in at #166 with permission from the 35 states where permission was granted.
Harvey
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Not sure maybe 90k?
We haven't touched the batteries. Our guy told us that if the battery performance drops to the point where you notice, you can replace individual cells. They have some way to see which cells are worse and you can get a few more years by just replacing the worst sections.
(A while back) I asked for an estimate on battery replacement. He told me "maybe $2000 right now." He also told me that the price of full battery replacement fluctuates a lot based on the cost of the raw materials.
DomB
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T - not sure why this happened, but if you want a fairly objective and very, very thorough analysis of Tesla, youtube Munro. From what I have seen, Tesla fell in quality (panel gap sizes, bad paint work) when it was ramping Model 3 production. It seems like there has been some improvement. On the paint, for example, they weren't allowing enough dry time (something like 8 minutes) before moving the cars. You will get what seems to me thoughtful and fair analysis from Munro. He is so respected that he has gotten to sit down with Musk. He is the only one I have seen ask Musk tough questions.Anybody know why Tesla came in so low in the recent JD Power vehicle dependability survey?
Askin for a friend.
2021 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS)
TROY, Mich.: 18 Feb. 2021 — Vehicle dependability is at an all-time high, with the overall level of problems cited by owners declining 10% from a year ago, according to the J.D. Power 2021 U.S. Vehicle Dependability StudySM (VDS), released today.www.jdpower.com
Munro is a pretty impressive dude. I think he grew up at GM as an engineer, is older now, and basically consults with all auto companies. He buys cars as a regular customer, tears them down to the most base engineering level, and sells thousand page plus reports to the big auto makers. For us mere mortals, he has really cool Youtube videos (his son and a senior member of his team both had to convince him to do the Youtube angle). For anyone thinking about Tesla, I would selective watch his videos.
He also has a Rivian preorder in and will tear that down, though it may not help me because I would likely be fairly early in the Que if I stick with the launch edition. His is on the truck, which starts in June. Suv starts in August (if they stick with the pushed back time).
Harv thanks for the note. Not trying to humble brag here. Will try to turn down the excitement. FWIW, I freely admit that all the issues with range that people are talking about may end up being very real. What I think that means for me is that I will have to stop around 20 min in Albany in each way for fast charging. When I go to Gore, I almost always stop when I am with family.
DomB
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It's very, very good for Tesla - a dependable, fast charging system. That is all you want. Anywhere you want to go, your Tesla will take you there and route you to their chargers. Whether 4 hours to the ADK or across the country.
Jason, here again, Rivian is taking a page from Tesla, though altering it slightly. They will have their own charger network (bad acronym: Rivian Adventure Network). Part of that will be putting chargers where you want to get offgrid (you read that right Camp). From the one or two leases of spaces that have come out, they will charge at 300kw, which I think is as fast as Tesla's fastest. The first actual lease I have seen is in Salida CO, which is supposed to be a fun place and close to some National Parks.
But, they are also building into the universal system (CCS I think?). For the 50 separate locations that NY wants to build by 2022 (Schroon Lake and Watertown already have operational locations), a Rivian will be able to tap into that. Google EVOLVENY. So Rivian will work with Electrify America (which from what I hear is buggy).
I don't know too much about the charging network because Rivian is (annoyingly at this point 3 months from production) very mum on details.
As much as I love what they are doing, if I don't have details that I need to complete the most expensive nonreal estate purchase I have made, I won't go through with it.
DB Thanks for your feedback. Might go with an e-bike to start, baby steps and it’s hilly. I’ll check out Munro too.
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How EVs were a lifeline for 3 families (and 6 cats) during the Texas blackout
Three electric car owners in Texas explain how their EVs helped them get through February's deep freeze and rolling blackouts.
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x10003q
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just like ICE vehicles......How EVs were a lifeline for 3 families (and 6 cats) during the Texas blackout
Three electric car owners in Texas explain how their EVs helped them get through February's deep freeze and rolling blackouts.
Then, when the power came back and they charged their Tesla's they got a $5000 bill.
