ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

[jasonwx]

Anybody know why Tesla came in so low in the recent JD Power vehicle dependability survey?
Askin for a friend.

2021 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS)

TROY, Mich.: 18 Feb. 2021 — Vehicle dependability is at an all-time high, with the overall level of problems cited by owners declining 10% from a year ago, according to the J.D. Power 2021 U.S. Vehicle Dependability StudySM (VDS), released today.

www.jdpower.com

JD Powers is horse shit

J.D. Power held back from including Tesla in the official rankings, choosing instead to "profile" the electric vehicle maker. This is because, according to J.D. Power, Tesla doesn't grant permission to survey owners of its cars in 15 states, unlike other manufacturers.

 

[Kingslug]

My Honda was 40 k...Rivian over 80K
When these things come down in price they will make more sense..and they will.

 

[Campgottagopee]

How long do I have to keep my wife's Prius?

It's nine years old now. We were planning it keep it another 3 years.

If I remember correctly the break even is at 12 -- might be 15

It's been a while since I've been to any type of meeting, which I like very, very much.

 

[Campgottagopee]

JD Powers is horse shit

I've been saying this exact same thing for years! They truly created quite a racket for themselves.

 

[Harvey]

If I remember correctly the break even is at 12 -- might be 15

Well even if we come up short, she likes it. She wanted an "electric car" since she did a report on the subject in 7th grade. Also to her credit she wants to hold on to it, feels like having a good old car is a badge.

And it has never had any unscheduled maintenance.

 

[DomB]

Now that I think of it ...I wouldn't care if they make no noise..The stereo makes all the noise needed.
But I can buy 2 trucks for the price of a Rivian.

Rivian will launch cheaper vehicles.

Rivian is following the Tesla approach of a 'halo' vehicle. Tesla started with the Roadster, then the S/X, then the 3/Y. Apparently they are launching a sub 30k EV.

I plan to get one and drive it into the ground. I have a res on a launch edition SUV (they call it R1s) (300+ battery) but may hold out for the extended range (won't' deliever that until Jan 2022). They have not disclosed the range. My guess is it is less than the 400 mi range for the truck. I would be happy with 375. They haven't disclosed how much range drops in the cold, which will be important for next season.

I don't spend much on cars (current daily driver is 2011 Honda CRV) but I want to support this company and love the combo of EV and Offroad/ 'adventure' capability.

 

[Harvey]

Well I for one can't wait for you to get one.

Be so cool to hear about it and see all the pics and reports you post!

 

[jasonwx]

Rivian will launch cheaper vehicles.

Rivian is following the Tesla approach of a 'halo' vehicle. Tesla started with the Roadster, then the S/X, then the 3/Y. Apparently they are launching a sub 30k EV.

I plan to get one and drive it into the ground. I have a res on a launch edition SUV (they call it R1s) (300+ battery) but may hold out for the extended range (won't' deliever that until Jan 2022). They have not disclosed the range. My guess is it is less than the 400 mi range for the truck. I would be happy with 375. They haven't disclosed how much range drops in the cold, which will be important for next season.

I don't spend much on cars (current daily driver is 2011 Honda CRV) but I want to support this company and love the combo of EV and Offroad/ 'adventure' capability.

what makes tesla , tesla is the charging network..from what i hear 2nd party chargers suck

 

[Ripitz]

Soon you’ll be able to charge anywhere

SparkCharge

www.sparkcharge.io

 

[Harvey]

what makes tesla , tesla is the charging network..from what i hear 2nd party chargers suck

What makes a charger bad, or good?