Gore Mountain Conditions

[tirolski]

$8 for Skittles

Without the $ale$ tax >> eightfittysix total.

Chocolates from home stash in the pocket work well.
Skittlesuck.

Snow looks nice.

 

[Brownski]

I don’t think it’s realistic to expect the roads to be perfect everywhere all the time, no matter how much money is spent. I mean, that would be pretty insane.

 

[Campgottagopee]

I don’t think it’s realistic to expect the roads to be perfect everywhere all the time, no matter how much money is spent. I mean, that would be pretty insane.

IMO
People drive to damn fast to begin with. What ever happened to driving at a speed that is safe for the road conditions. Granted, I don't drive a lot. But I have plenty of wheel time in a truck, towing a snowmobile trailer in near blizzard conditions. You go slow! LoL

 

[gorgonzola]

IMO
People drive to damn fast to begin with. What ever happened to driving at a speed that is safe for the road conditions. Granted, I don't drive a lot. But I have plenty of wheel time in a truck, towing a snowmobile trailer in near blizzard conditions. You go slow! LoL

Welp I just found out that speed limits have nothing to do with safety, not sure about NY but PA is an 85 Rule state

 

[sig]

$8 for Skittles

Harv buddy, you are retired and should be on a budget. might want to buy these at stewarts on way to mountain.

 

[snoloco]

That will be a great way to beat the crowds.
So we should expect the interconnect before the upper mountain? WTF!

mm

I'm not sure what you want Gore to be, as it seems like you complain about absolutely everything they do, even when things are going well.

Given how the snowmaking system works, the ski bowl is largely independent of the main mountain. So it makes sense to make snow there when they can, and not take away any capacity from other trails. It looks like for this weekend they'll have most of the front side open, all major trails except Sleighride and Wild Air, plus the two routes on North, and they just made a move for Topridge, so that might open as well, which would open the new lift. So if they can add the ski bowl to that, then they are way ahead of last year.

As for the interconnect, they are about 2.5 trails away from completing it. The top of Peaceful Valley and Eagle's Nest are on the same line, as well as Backwoods and the middle section of Peaceful Valley. Then add Cedars and Hedges, and it's all connected. Echo and Sagamore can be done later.

Considering that it's December 1st, and they are making snow on Topridge. It would seem they may be closer to getting the summit open than you might think. We could be looking at all lifts by Christmas for the first time since 2017.

 

[Harvey]

So it makes sense to make snow there when they can, and not take away any capacity from other trails.

I believe the ski bowl pulls directly from the river, all the rest of the mountain gets river water that has been pumped up to the reservoir.

We could be looking at all lifts by Christmas for the first time since 2017.

If you know the history of this forum, this ^^ represents a historic moment.

ETA: @snoloco can you tell us a bit about 2017?

 

[Cork]

I believe the ski bowl pulls directly from the river, all the rest of the mountain gets river water that has been pumped up to the reservoir.

Yes, and that is why the Ski Bowl does not get Sno-Max, as that is incorporated in the system at the Pump Station next to the reservoir.

 

[snoloco]

I believe the ski bowl pulls directly from the river, all the rest of the mountain gets river water that has been pumped up to the reservoir.

The system has two pumphouses, one at the Hudson River, and one at the Reservoir. There are no booster stations. The Hudson River pumphouse runs at 4800 gpm, and can either feed the reservoir, or directly onto some trails, including all of the Ski Bowl, some of Burnt Ridge and even up to the main base. I'm not sure where the exact dividing line is.

The Reservoir pumphouse runs at 6800 gpm, and can feed all trails on the mountain, including Burnt Ridge, but not the Ski Bowl.

If some of the Hudson River water is being sent directly onto trails and not to the reservoir, then the reservoir will drain more quickly, and then snowmaking out of it has to stop and wait for the reservoir to refill. However, the reservoir can be refilled when it is too warm to make snow.

The smartest thing to do is watch the weather windows and adjust the output between the areas accordingly. Ideally, the reservoir should be full at the start of any snowmaking window, and empty by the end of it, and then refilled before the next snowmaking window. If this is done well, then Gore's snowmaking capacity quickly goes from 6800 gpm to 11600 gpm. It can only hit that level in short bursts because the reservoir will drain, but my point is that if both pumphouses are used efficiently, then capacity can substantially increase without any infrastructure upgrades.

If you know the history of this forum, this ^^ represents a historic moment.

ETA: @snoloco can you tell us a bit about 2017?

2017 had generally favorable temperatures, no issues or downtime with snowmaking, and a lot of natural snow. The previous time it happened before that was 2012, which also had a lot of natural snow, and is the only other time it happened after the Ski Bowl was added.

 

[DomB]

Yes, and that is why the Ski Bowl does not get Sno-Max, as that is incorporated in the system at the Pump Station next to the reservoir.

What is snow-max?