Campgottagopee
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- Jul 20, 2020
I don't want no stinkin HSQ at GP. For our vert I can't see where the added cost would be a benefit.
What year does the data come from for the tables for NY and VT?![]()
Assumes all acreage skiable (has enough snow) with all lifts spinning.It's not up to date. I did it October 2021. Any updates welcome.
FWIW it's not super accurate because every measures acreage differently.
Every chair loaded, trails wide open.
Being a Midwest skier I can say that having the option of a high detachable lift is nice when things are not very busy and you can get some vertical in on a 300'-500' hill. But on a busy Saturday the line for the highspeed lift can be way to long and the fixed grip is ski on and it makes more sense to just take the fixed grip.Mt Holly Resort, Holly, Mi., has 2 high speed quads serving 350 vertical feet and 100 acres - about the same size as Mt Peter.
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So resting on a chair meets your approval for upgrading from tbar to chair, but getting in more skiing by upgrading to a high speed lift does not meet your approval. Fixed grip lifts are intimidating to a lot of people. HS lifts open the ski area to more people.
At Stratton there are 3 major lifts out of the main base area - the Gondola, the AMEX HS6, and the South American fixed grip quad. When it is crowded (or the gondola is closed, very common due to wind) they run the South American. The top terminal is visible from inside the midmountain lodge. There are times when we are sitting in the lodge and watching the South American stop every 5 chairs because people fall coming down the ramp. If that was a high speed lift it would rarely stop.
High speed lifts give me the opportunity to ski more than fixed grip lifts. Since we know that fixed grip lifts can be designed to deliver just as many skier to the top of the lift (and in some cases more) as high speed lifts, the so called crowding issue during busy time is nonsense. I am all for less time on the lift and more time on the snow.
I remember having this conversation with Big Al back in the day at HLL, I was saying now that you have this nice hotel GP needs a HSQ and him saying a fixed grip is all that it needed. He was ultimately right, it just took ten years and a bankruptcy...I don't want no stinkin HSQ at GP. For our vert I can't see where the added cost would be a benefit.
Having a mix makes sense for medium and large resorts that are close enough to large metropolitan areas to end up with lift lines > 5 minutes at times.But on a busy Saturday the line for the highspeed lift can be way to long and the fixed grip is ski on and it makes more sense to just take the fixed grip.