Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts

[x10003q]

The high speed lifts I ride regularly are two of the lifts at Gore (Gondi and BRQ) and the fixed chairs are at Plattekill, McCauley, Snow Ridge. I like BRQ, great terrain, for me. I never find myself thinking I am cold or whatever. I also never find myself considering the lifts when deciding where to go.

Thanks for proving my point. We no longer have to think about lift lines at Gore because all the lifts are high speed/high capacity. Prior to the HS3 at Gore in 1984, all the lift lines (all doubles except for the red gondola) on the weekends were horrible. Plattekill/McCauley/Snow Ridge are so far off the radar plus short lift length that they do not have the need for high capacity lifts.

Sometime I do go to a lift served ski area vs skiing in the woods, because there are lifts. I guess that is somewhat the same.

That one Smuggs chair does take forever, but it leads to nirvana.

or it can lead to the more common East coast icy skiing after the 40 minutes of waiting.

Be interesting to see who does more "waiting" (line plus lift ride) in an average day, you at Stratton or me at Plattekill.

You are going to compare crowded Stratton, where the number of skier visits during 2 non-holiday weekends will exceed Plattekill's entire season number of skier visits? How about we compare apples to apples - Where am I going to get more skiing in - Saddleback, where they just installed a new HSQ or Plattekill? The answer is Saddleback.

FYI - There are plenty of weekend mornings or late afternoons where I can get the equivalent of an "entire days skiing at Plattekill" at Stratton in about 2 hours.

 

[Ripitz]

I grew up skiing Stratton in the eighties with its classic trails. When they built the Starship and I rode it for the first time I was appalled. Haven’t been back since.

 

[sig]

i am in no hurry to get up the mountain. I have a limited number on runs in me and am gassed after 4 hours. would rather enjoy a run with less people on the trail.

 

[Benny Profane]

A mountain manager once told me the the most common complaint on powder days was that they don't groom enough. Clearly different skiers have different opinions about what makes skiing enjoyable.

mm

Soon they're going to be hearing a lot of complaints about awful food service and lifts not running and chaotic parking and slow shuttles and dirty lodges and rooms because they didn't invest in the real problem of affordable housing for their staffs. Maybe this season.

 

[Harvey]

Thanks for proving my point. We no longer have to think about lift lines at Gore because all the lifts are high speed/high capacity. Prior to the HS3 at Gore in 1984, all the lift lines (all doubles except for the red gondola) on the weekends were horrible. Plattekill/McCauley/Snow Ridge are so far off the radar plus short lift length that they do not have the need for high capacity lifts.

or it can lead to the more common East coast icy skiing after the 40 minutes of waiting.

You are going to compare crowded Stratton, where the number of skier visits during 2 non-holiday weekends will exceed Plattekill's entire season number of skier visits? How about we compare apples to apples - Where am I going to get more skiing in - Saddleback, where they just installed a new HSQ or Plattekill? The answer is Saddleback.

FYI - There are plenty of weekend mornings or late afternoons where I can get the equivalent of an "entire days skiing at Plattekill" at Stratton in about 2 hours.

All the lifts at Gore are HS?

Gore is the only place I wait. I admit it's not bad if you get there early because you can mostly avoid the HS chairs if you do arrive early. The BRQ is the HS chair without lines because of the dreaded (prized!) traverse. That's why it's my favorite HS chair in NY. Nobody uses it.

I do agree that Gore has shorter lines than it used to.

I think you cherry picked my point. You are saying you can't compare Stratton to Plattekill because they have so many more skiers. I'm saying the same thing.

For me at Plattekill the whole day is "skiing." Meaning I enjoy the whole day.

We are coming at this from such a different place I think we have to agree to disagree.

 

[Ripitz]

Where am I going to get more skiing in -

More skiing or better skiing? I think there is a quality verses quantity theme going on here. If more is better would the skiing be better at Platty if the lifts were high speed?

 

[x10003q]

All the lifts at Gore are HS?

read what I wrote - High Speed/High CAPACITY - all those FG Quads are high capacity - they eat crowds

Gore is the only place I wait. I admit it's not bad if you get there early because you can mostly avoid the HS chairs if you do arrive early. The BRQ is the HS chair without lines because of the dreaded (prized!) traverse. That's why it's my favorite HS chair in NY. Nobody uses it.

I do agree that Gore has shorter lines than it used to.

Gore has zero lines when compared to the days of the double chairlift. The High Peaks, Straight Brook, North, Ad Express were all doubles at one time.

I think you cherry picked my point. You are saying you can't compare Stratton to Plattekill because they have so many more skiers. I'm saying the same thing.

No - you are comparing an out of the way, small day area that is only open 3 days a week to one of the most popular ski areas in the East.

For me at Plattekill the whole day is "skiing." Meaning I enjoy the whole day.

Stop it. You are not the only person who loves skiing at off the radar areas or any ski areas for that matter.

We are coming at this from such a different place I think we have to agree to disagree.

Nah. I have just as much fun skiing at Plattekill as you do. I also have fun skiing at Stratton. Maybe you need to try Stratton before you look down at it from your lofty perch.

 

[Ripitz]

Don’t do it Harv. Don’t sell your soul!

 

[Brownski]

You know I’m as willing as anybody to make jokes about Stratton or Okemo but it’s true that there is decent skiing to be found at those places. And as much as I believe that they have too much lift capacity for their acreage, they have just the right amount of lift capacity for the huge number of people that show up on a typical weekend. I think that’s why Boyne is installing this lift. The people are showing up so they need to get them up the hill somehow.

 

[sig]

Don’t do it Harv. Don’t sell your soul!

I have friends who love stratton. i don't get it but to each its own. i like heading to BRQ before first run. the traverse gets the blood flowing and loosens joints.