Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts

[Campgottagopee]

But I'm a cranky old man. I haven't liked anything that's happened in the last 20 years.

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LoL
I don't consider myself old and I agree with you MM

 

[Campgottagopee]

Powder preservation? What difference does it make? You'll get the same amount of powder turns in regardless, just maybe instead of 5 hours you get that same amount in 2. Then you can spend the rest of your day working on your bump technique in soft moguls.

One nice thing about skiing in CNY is that this is never an issue.....LoL

 

[MarzNC]

Still emphasis on summer ops seems newer than HS lifts.

When do you think summer ops became a priority in New York ski areas/resorts? It's relatively recent in the west where most resorts use US Forest Service land due to the changes in the rules that didn't happen until around 2014. There are resorts that have been 4-season for decades, or at least had revenue generating activities during the summer months.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

When do you think summer ops became a priority in New York ski areas/resorts?

Probably when they look at the numbers and see no growth in the sport, when many talk about there being much less/more volatile winters in the future. This, and when the existing lifts reach end-of-life, they start to think about how things can be done differently.

 

[Harvey]

When do you think summer ops became a priority in New York ski areas/resorts?

This was just a guess. Gore got a HS lift in 1964 (I think), it seems like the increased emphasis on summer ops is more recent.

 

[raisingarizona]

When do you think summer ops became a priority in New York ski areas/resorts? It's relatively recent in the west where most resorts use US Forest Service land due to the changes in the rules that didn't happen until around 2014. There are resorts that have been 4-season for decades, or at least had revenue generating activities during the summer months.

President Obama Signs Ski Area Summer Use Bill Into Law

On Monday, November 7th, President Obama signed the Ski Area Recreational Opportunity Enhancement Act into law (S. 382/H.R. 765 or SAROEA? No cool acronym

unofficialnetworks.com

 

[x10003q]

This was just a guess. Gore got a HS lift in 1964 (I think), it seems like the increased emphasis on summer ops is more recent.

Gore got the HS triple in 1984. The HS triple replaced a double that was installed in the early 1960s (1964?). The Red gondola was installed in 1967. The current Gore gondola was installed in 1999, Burnt Ridge HSQ was installed in 2008, and the HS Triple was replaced by a HSQ in 2014.

 

[tirolski]

One nice thing about skiing in CNY is that this is never an issue.....LoL

C’mon Camp. Are ya forgetting about our lake effects? Never is a pretty long time last I looked.

 

[MarzNC]

President Obama Signs Ski Area Summer Use Bill Into Law

On Monday, November 7th, President Obama signed the Ski Area Recreational Opportunity Enhancement Act into law (S. 382/H.R. 765 or SAROEA? No cool acronym

unofficialnetworks.com

It took a few more years before the Forest Service figured out exactly what the operational rules would be. That's why construction of ziplines or alpine slides couldn't start immediately after the bill was signed. Fair to say that the Colorado senators were lobbying hard for the bill and Rob Katz spent plenty of effort supporting it. Water parks, swimming pools, tennis courts, and amusement parks were not acceptable. The list of activities mentioned included mountain bike parks, disc golf courses, ropes courses, and ziplines.

2013-16 was when I sampled skiing in NY and New England, as well as went to several destination resorts in the Rockies. The difference in summer activities was noticeable. Especially since my home hill in VA was a 4-season resort from the start back in the 1970s. I remember following the development of summer activities at Berkshire East.

April 2014

https://mountaintownnews.net/2014/04/21/summer-ski-area-use/

October 2011

Udall bill likely to expand summer uses of ski areas

ASPEN - U.S. Sen. Mark Udall claimed Wednesday that a bill he steered through Congress this week will be an economic boon for Colorado mountain resorts by expanding their

www.aspentimes.com

 

[MarzNC]

Probably when they look at the numbers and see no growth in the sport, when many talk about there being much less/more volatile winters in the future. This, and when the existing lifts reach end-of-life, they start to think about how things can be done differently.

Installing more lifts that are beginner-friendly certainly seems to be a priority out west lately.

It was a top priority to makes it easier for beginners and the families with kids to navigate the base area. Taos now has two end-to-end magic carpets with tunnels, a gondolita between the Children's Ski Center and the main base, and Lift 1 became a detachable HSQ. That's the only lift out of the main base so advanced beginners and intermediates have to ride it. No conveyor loading though. TSV also built a Via Ferrata for summer fun.

Alta is about to replace a fixed-grip quad that serves the green terrain out of the Albion base with a detachable. Talk of running Sunnyside during the summer started around 2018. Alta didn't build anything special to generate revenue during the summer but neighboring Snowbird built an alpine slide on private land back in 2003. Park City had had an alpine slide on private land before that. Solitude wanted to build one but couldn't because they didn't have enough private land.