Ripitz
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FKNA. Terrifying. Looks like the guy in yellow at 0:47 sticks it.
Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts
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More here.
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Lift Rollback Causes Injuries, Damage in South Korea
Authorities in South Korea say a rollback at the Bears Town ski resort involved approximately 100 people. The mountain’s base-to-summit detachable quad went backward at approximately 3:00 pm …
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D.B. Cooper
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Them f'n spacing clutches again.
snoloco
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It has been discussed previously how detachables have a shorter service life than fixed grips. That's not necessarily true. A detachable can last just as long as a fixed grip, but at around 25-30 years, detachables start to require extensive component replacement. This can mean various moving terminal parts, but can also include full carrier replacement. These upgrades are sometimes not considered worth it, so the lift is just replaced, particularly if parts are hard to come by, like Gore's Adirondack Express 1. What I find interesting in every construction season is how some lifts end up getting scrapped that I think for sure will be relocated, while other lifts that I think will for sure be scrapped end up somewhere else. I think it really depends on what's out there, who knows about it, and whether they can act fast enough. In Vail's Epic Lift Upgrade, they are not relocating any lifts within the company, so anything that's not sold to someone else will get scrapped. The newest detachable they are removing is from 1997, which will make it 25 years old.
snoloco
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Not every lift has to be a heated bubble 8 pack for me to like it. I very much enjoyed taking laps on the Outpost Double at Pico today. It was built by Italian manufacturer Carlevaro and Savio in 1969. There's something to be said about an old school lift serving old school terrain. It's a unique experience and step back in time. I've always been a proponent for upgrading lifts, installing snowmaking, and regularly grooming most terrain, but you know what, maybe it doesn't all have to be the same.
saratogahalfday
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Every mountain should have a fixed-grip double or triple that serves mostly ungroomed terrain. Many still do, thankfully.
MarzNC
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Doesn't necessarily need to be all ungroomed either. Waterville Valley made a deliberate decision to move an old fixed-grip triple when they opened Green Peak instead of spending a few million on a detachable quad. There's a good mix of terrain so a mixed-ability group could enjoy it together. My guess is that on weekends, that lift doesn't get much of a line. At least not in comparison to the detachable to the top (almost) or the other base quad.
View of the rest of Waterville Valley from the Green Peak Triple
Harvey
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Love the lift rundowns @snoloco. I broke out the post you did on the Skyeship Gondola, it was really cool. Seemed a shame to bury it in Killington Conditions. Your passion for and knowledge of the subject matter is appreciated.
snoloco
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I thought I posted it here, not in conditions. Oops.
