Dark Side Liftline Photos

Guess who's back...

Here's a video I took of the new High Peaks Quad today.


I was dismayed to see such a negative reaction to a brand new lift, one that was very much needed as discussed here for years, so I'm coming back to defend it.

I fully support the replacement of the lift and all the associated trail work. Not only is the new lift faster, more comfortable, and higher capacity, but it also goes back to the true summit, greatly improving mountain access. Since the new lift is higher off the ground than the old in many parts, the views are better.

For the naysayers, do you really think they could've built a new lift while leaving Dark Side Glades undisturbed? They couldn't. The line needed to be widened for the quad gauge towers. Heavy equipment also needed to be used to dig the footings, and they had to remove the old ones. They also were on a very tight schedule, so of course the result was going to be messy and need to be cleaned up. It sounds like they have realized this and are going to clean it up next summer. So now that we've got those facts out of the way, do you think they should've have replaced the lift at all? Do you remember the multi-week closures the old lift had on multiple occasions, the rope evac on MLK Weekend? Do you understand that a 54 year old double chair with very low capacity was not suitable to be the only summit access without using the gondola? There comes a time when every lift outlives its service life and needs to be replaced. Do you still drive the same car you did 54 years ago, if you were even alive then? And for those who claim this is going to overcrowd the Dark Side, you're out of your mind. 12 years later and how many causal skiers do you think even realize that Burnt Ridge exists? There's a gondola, a high speed quad, and a new fixed grip quad right at the base area. Those people are going to stay there and not "take over" the Dark Side. The widening of Cloud happened because the wider lift eliminated the trees between Cloud and the old lift, so it made sense to make it all a trail. They also needed it because now there's two quads serving the summit instead of just 1 and a double that ended further down.
 
The lift shack is not in the traditional place. It is behind the unloading ramp to looker's right. Gore has several lifts where the shack is not in the normal location. Normally it is adjacent to the ramps on the uphill side. The same goes for both fixed grips and detachables. On the AE2, Burnt Ridge, Hudson, Topridge, and North, the bottom shack is on the wrong side. On Sunway, it is downhill of the bottom terminal, and of course for High Peaks.
 
It sounds like they have realized this and are going to clean it up next summer.

A friend of mine worked for poma over the summer on both 6 and 3, and said it is definitely part of the plan.

I think everyone knew it had to be replaced. I don't really have an issue with the widening. I also accept the idea that it wasn't practical to save the terrain. It's just that it's sad to see something beautiful and unique, that we took for granted, removed.

I do wonder if the new lift will be more susceptible to wind holds.

Thanks for the video!
 
Curiosity did this impact the upper Darby area? Always liked that little trail.
 
I think everyone knew it had to be replaced. I don't really have an issue with the widening. I also accept the idea that it wasn't practical to save the terrain. It's just that it's sad to see something beautiful and unique, that we took for granted, removed.

I do wonder if the new lift will be more susceptible to wind holds.
"Unique and beatiful" are what that NIMBY crowd says when they want to stop something. It always works. The lift was replaced once without destroying Darkside, they could have done it again. The Mad River Glen single, the Castlerock and Palivencini doubles were all replaced without damaging beautiful and unique areas. ORDA should have recogized what they had, and built a reliable lift without damage to Darkside. The added capacity is nice, but it's really only needed when the gondola breaks down. What they need now is a reliable gondola and/or a back up plan to open BRQ and HP promptly when the gondola breaks down. Without that knid of operating plan, they're still gonna have the lift line all the way up Wood In on weekends when the gondola doesn't start.

There is no point in buildng a lift by destroying the place you want it to take you to.

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