Big Snow - American Dream - 9/14/22

OldTimer88

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I had some biz at the W in Hoboken this week and figured I'd stop over at the indoor ski "run" at American Dream aka Xanadu next to Tuna Can Stadium in Rutherford, NJ. The drive down from Albany was littered with traffic, construction and state police cars - but drove right by the Bada Bing on Rte 17 (Satin Dolls) and enjoyed a bit of nostalgia thinking about Paulie Walnuts, Silvio and Tony discussing topics of the day after watching bouncing silicone and sipping on scotch.
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Easy drive to the A Parking Garage, very limited traffic on a Wednesday and relatively simple navigation to the double doors leading to the two escalator ride up to Big Snow.
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After ordering/reserving a ticket online the night before (seems like they're limited to 30 per 15 minute interval) the time from car to "mountain" was about four minutes. The staff greets you very warmly and is eager to help. You're given a wristband to gain entrance onto the hill and reserve a locker if you choose to store any gear. There is a relatively large shop where you can buy pretty much anything from gloves to hats to jackets and pants. I arrived in shorts and a sweatshirt and packed my bootbag with ski pants, boots, gloves, and socks. Didn't want to wear my insulated ski jacket, hat, helmet or goggles. Ski pants, gloves, sweatshirt and backwards ball cap were all I needed.
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Gear on, wristband scanned and through the double doors to a surprisingly cold warehouse-like atmosphere. You can rent all of the gear - from outerwear to boots and skis - all available once you exit the locker area. I brought one of my pairs instead of renting.
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I'll just say this - it's weird. The snow is kind of heavy and chunky and the surface is only groomed three times a week according to one of the staff members. There was no line at the lift and it was probably 2:1 snowboarders to skiers. There is a small beginner hill serviced by a magic carpet for kids and newbies. They have ski bikes and short skis available to rent/demo and several people were trying those out. The hill is basically divided into a terrain park with a few features and a straight 27 degree drop on the other side. The ride up is about three and a half minutes while the shot down the slope is about 8-10 seconds. The snowboarders form a queue at the top and there was this odd practice of waiting for the boarder to complete his/her run before the next would venture down. I didn't follow suit and "dropped in" right off the lift, turning left and heading straight down. It's over before you know it and you're back on the quad for the ride back up.
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Haas Quad
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I'm not dying to go back. And as I sit here in Hoboken during a "work" meeting, I will not drive back over before the trek back up 87 to get some more turns in despite Big Snow being only about eight miles away. But I've never skied in September so that was cool. It was 80 degrees on Wednesday and I got some turns in - indoors, in a giant mall next to a stadium that looks like a shoe polish can. The staff was super hospitable and welcoming. So all in all, if you're down this way, bring your skis, pants and spend an hour or two banging out some quick turns. It's fun but gets a bit tedious rather quickly.

As a side note, I also went to The Summit at One Vanderbilt - that was pretty awesome. Very highly recommended.
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Cheers!
 
Nice report. I was there this past Sunday (9/11). It was my second trip and I liked it better than my first trip (July 2021), but that was probably due to the fact that it was my first time on the new skis that were the antidote to my case of That August Itch.

I think the reason that the snow feels weird is because there is no ice
 
I have found that having a like minded friend to go with makes it a little better. The comments on the snow are spot on. There’s something weird- like it’s holding more moisture than it would outdoors. It makes it sticky.
 
Nice!
Seems they could speed up the lift for 3 and a half minutes up for 8-10 seconds down.
Rope tows will give ya more and ya get to ski up.
Since the primary market for Big SNOW is beginners, speeding up the fixed-grip quad wouldn't be a good idea for them. Meaning after they get the basics figured out using the magic carpet(s). Fair to say that even cautious intermediates take a bit longer to make it back to the base of the lift.
 
I have found that having a like minded friend to go with makes it a little better. The comments on the snow are spot on. There’s something weird- like it’s holding more moisture than it would outdoors. It makes it sticky.
I went twice in 2021. Rented gear the first time when taking a beginner while on the way driving south from NYC to NC. Was much happier the second time with my own gear. Especially since my skis are treated with DPS Phantom. Sticky snow is much less of an issue with Phantom, whether manmade indoors or due to warm spring weather at Alta.

Completely agree that Big SNOW is far more fun with friends than solo. Same is true when skiing my home hill (Massanutten in northern VA) where finishing a run takes at most 3 minutes before a 5-7 min lift ride.
 
Everything is better with mates - especially something like skiing. But it was still pretty great solo skiing indoors and the staff was excellen making the user experience comfortable, convenient and fun. At around 3p I thought it was interesting that local high school ski teams started showing up. That was pretty cool to see the youngins doing their thing. But it got crowded. I wouldn't drive the 2.5 hours specifically for Big Snow. But I would bring my gear the next time I'm in Hoboken for work down the line. It's a good time.
 
My goal since 2018 is to seek out partners every time I ski.

Even at Plattekill where odds are strong I will find someone without advance planning, I try in advance.

 
Everything is better with mates - especially something like skiing. But it was still pretty great solo skiing indoors and the staff was excellen making the user experience comfortable, convenient and fun. At around 3p I thought it was interesting that local high school ski teams started showing up. That was pretty cool to see the youngins doing their thing. But it got crowded. I wouldn't drive the 2.5 hours specifically for Big Snow. But I would bring my gear the next time I'm in Hoboken for work down the line. It's a good time.
i pass by it everyday..still no desire...
 
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