Avalanche

[tirolski]

Holy fkn F. best planning intel and decision making? Huh? Maybe I take back the whole helping the inexperienced thing I mentioned. Seriously holy crap.

The attention from powder mag sharing his November instagram GoPro video probably played a part in his decision making process here.

That’s why the Why?
Hope he heals well and learns something useful from it all.

 

[Brownski]

They're lucky the weather was good enough for the helicopter to hoist him out. They don’t appear to have had a proper splint or litter. Waiting on rescuers getting to them on foot with the proper gear would have been pretty rough.

 

[tirolski]

They're lucky the weather was good enough for the helicopter to hoist him out. They don’t appear to have had a proper splint or litter. Waiting on rescuers getting to them on foot with the proper gear would have been pretty rough.

NH folks had a snow cat going up the “auto road” if the chopper couldn’t land.

Avalanche On NH Mountain Injures Bow Man Requiring Helicopter Rescue

Dominic Torro was given aid by other skiers and rescued after several hours; multiple agencies and volunteers worked together on the rescue.

patch.com

 

[raisingarizona]

That’s why the Why?
Hope he heals well and learns something useful from it all.

The comment there suggests that they were making good decisions and had good intel when it actually sounds like all of the red flags were there to not climb up and ski those lines.

 

[tirolski]

The comment there suggests that they were making good decisions and had good intel when it actually sounds like all of the red flags were there to not climb up and ski those lines.

Yup. Gravity is a force to reckon with.

 

[JTG]

The comment there suggests that they were making good decisions and had good intel when it actually sounds like all of the red flags were there to not climb up and ski those lines.

While his posts try to convey they did all the right things (read the advisories, CT, ECT, ski cuts, etc, etc), the biggest mistake was thinking they were smart enough to allow a plan to proceed rather than taking the conservative approach and flat out avoiding risky terrain when evidence in the days before indicated they were exposing themselves to exactly what happened to them. Here’s a good place for at least a one pager, and these guys may have hit them all.

Glass houses and stones, but the older I get the less likely I am to venture forth on moderate days “doing the right things” while trying to score better terrain. The risks just aren’t worth it, and never really were.

 

[Harvey]

Are you guys saying that everything they knew in advance should have convinced them not to ski that day, or that something they learned right before they dropped in should have changed their minds?

 

[Benny Profane]

While his posts try to convey they did all the right things (read the advisories, CT, ECT, ski cuts, etc, etc), the biggest mistake was thinking they were smart enough to allow a plan to proceed rather than taking the conservative approach and flat out avoiding risky terrain when evidence in the days before indicated they were exposing themselves to exactly what happened to them. Here’s a good place for at least a one pager, and these guys may have hit them all.

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Glass houses and stones, but the older I get the less likely I am to venture forth on moderate days “doing the right things” while trying to score better terrain. The risks just aren’t worth it, and never really were.

I'll add Red Bull competition videos.

 

[JTG]

Are you guys saying that everything they knew in advance should have convinced them not to ski that day, or that something they learned right before they dropped in should have changed their minds?

I’m not saying they shouldn’t have skied that day but, from the standpoint of playing it conservatively, the information they had available to them prior to getting to the top of Airplane should have led them to perhaps choose something more conservative.

 

[raisingarizona]

Are you guys saying that everything they knew in advance should have convinced them not to ski that day, or that something they learned right before they dropped in should have changed their minds?

I guess I read the post report thinking it was an actual report from the avalanche center for that day. If that were the case the danger rating would probably have been considerable.

There was evidence of slide activity and I’m guessing they were aware of the wind events leading up to the accident.