TheGreatAbyss
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And they leak. Took my POS Ford Escape with a sunroof to a carwash once. I got cleaner then the car.
ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions
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MarzNC
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The MPG for the Prime is about 2 miles less than for the R4P Hybrid. Meaning when using just HV mode, which is what I do for driving trips away from home. Have gotten 38-40 mpg for such trips, which can be 1500+ miles round trip. As I remember the R4P Hybrid MPG rating is 42.
Ended up with the glass roof on both the R4P 2021 SE and 2022 XSE. Wasn't really possible to get one without it.
riverc0il
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I've had two cars with pano roofs, seven years worth of owning them, never had a problem. The rest of my cars have had sunroofs. I am tall at 6'1", never noticed an issue with head room (folks taller than me might have issues, I guess).
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My CX-50 (non-turbo) is up to one full year of ownership: 29.7 MPG (all fill ups recorded). My best tank was this summer (going to Acadia, very little highway) at 37.9 MPG. It is EPA rated 24 city, 30 highway, and 27 combined, as I recall. Since April, my worst tank was 29.9 MPG (my most recent tank was 33.9 MPG).
My Civic averaged 37.8 MPG (which is less than its highway EPA, but more than its combined EPA). Given my driving conditions and style, I'd say the CX-50 has really over performed by averaging its highway EPA.
The vehicle is very thirsty off the line, though. Driven in the city, I could see low 20s at best, maybe worse with a heavy foot in the city. The turbo in the city with a heavy foot would never hit 20 MPG, ever.
A hybrid version is due soon, looks like it will have the Rav4 hybrid engine (and a CVT instead of automatic), as anticipated for many years. Same EPA MPG as the Rav4 Hybrid. I wonder if Mazda was able to tune the engine better? The Rav4 hybrid is known as a loud droner (and Mazda is well known for a higher quality engine/product).
The price difference between my ICE version and the hybrid (equivalent trim) is around $5k-6k or so. Given my driving patterns, I would expect worse MPG compared to EPA on the hybrid (which don't do too well in cold NNE winters and on long highway drives to ski areas).
I gave up holding out for the hybrid version. Given the price difference, I don't regret it (especially seeing what looks like the Rav4 engine with a CVT). I think it would be almost a wash in total fuel costs after accounting for the hybrid premium (and I doubt the hybrid version will get discounted for a while).
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My CX-50 (non-turbo) is up to one full year of ownership: 29.7 MPG (all fill ups recorded). My best tank was this summer (going to Acadia, very little highway) at 37.9 MPG. It is EPA rated 24 city, 30 highway, and 27 combined, as I recall. Since April, my worst tank was 29.9 MPG (my most recent tank was 33.9 MPG).
My Civic averaged 37.8 MPG (which is less than its highway EPA, but more than its combined EPA). Given my driving conditions and style, I'd say the CX-50 has really over performed by averaging its highway EPA.
The vehicle is very thirsty off the line, though. Driven in the city, I could see low 20s at best, maybe worse with a heavy foot in the city. The turbo in the city with a heavy foot would never hit 20 MPG, ever.
A hybrid version is due soon, looks like it will have the Rav4 hybrid engine (and a CVT instead of automatic), as anticipated for many years. Same EPA MPG as the Rav4 Hybrid. I wonder if Mazda was able to tune the engine better? The Rav4 hybrid is known as a loud droner (and Mazda is well known for a higher quality engine/product).
The price difference between my ICE version and the hybrid (equivalent trim) is around $5k-6k or so. Given my driving patterns, I would expect worse MPG compared to EPA on the hybrid (which don't do too well in cold NNE winters and on long highway drives to ski areas).
I gave up holding out for the hybrid version. Given the price difference, I don't regret it (especially seeing what looks like the Rav4 engine with a CVT). I think it would be almost a wash in total fuel costs after accounting for the hybrid premium (and I doubt the hybrid version will get discounted for a while).
Peter Minde
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On my second VW with panorama sunroof. No issues.
DomB
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I don’t miss gas. On vacation with a rental car and I ll be going to a gas station soon. Boo.
I know it sounds odd given electric’s shorter range but I almost never have to stop to charge. The exception is a four plus hour trip or 5 hour round trip that doesn’t have some kind of overnight (including trickle) charging.
Hope everyone is having a great summer!
I know it sounds odd given electric’s shorter range but I almost never have to stop to charge. The exception is a four plus hour trip or 5 hour round trip that doesn’t have some kind of overnight (including trickle) charging.
Hope everyone is having a great summer!
TheGreatAbyss
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My PSEG EV program is finally fully setup. Looks like my Tesla cost me about $50 to charge last month and then a $25 credit for off peak got applied. ~$25 for a months worth of driving. We don't do that many miles but still pretty sweet
Brownski
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Three years out at best but pretty cool looking concept vehicles.
www.thedrive.com
Scout Skeptics Who Saw the New EVs in Person Were Impressed. I’m Still Torn
The Scout concept vehicles make a compelling case for off-road EVs. There are some grumpy comments about them online, but I talked to a whole lotta people who saw it person and everybody was impressed.
www.thedrive.com
jasonwx
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imo it's a good looking vehicle...better then the cyber crap...main problem is the company is owned by VWThree years out at best but pretty cool looking concept vehicles.
Scout Skeptics Who Saw the New EVs in Person Were Impressed. I’m Still Torn
The Scout concept vehicles make a compelling case for off-road EVs. There are some grumpy comments about them online, but I talked to a whole lotta people who saw it person and everybody was impressed.
TheGreatAbyss
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It does look pretty cool but I read somewhere that it's supposed to be substantially bigger then the Rivian. I wouldn't mind a bigger EV with an optional 3rd row at somepoint but that's too much for my needs.
